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Firepluk
[[0C]1v0ry_k1ng]exiting :)
[[0C]1v0ry_k1ng]!exit
this was made by ivory when he lost game, how about it? its ok?
think someone should not be admin
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12 years ago
to put that in context, it was a troll game on a tiny map in which I started with 13 coms because juggler kicked the whole team... but sure sfireman :)
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Yes, I saved the infolog. This was not ok. He exited the game after it was clear that he would lose the game.

"to put that in context, it was a troll game on a tiny map in which I started with 13 coms because juggler kicked the whole team... but sure sfireman :) "

Yes it was, but you could have exited right away, not after a few minutes when it was clear that you lost against sfireman.
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Firepluk
12 years ago
Ivory but i started with big ammount of coms too, so why you didnt exit with your mega admin right when you went to win, and exited when went to lose?
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Firepluk
12 years ago
This is unfair, hate such admins
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12 years ago
lets tell the whole story first lol

game starts normal
both sides gets people juggled
game continues
at about 10-15 min team Ivoryking is loosing
someone calls !exitvote
vote fails
then ivory uses admin powers to !exit

!exit is ok but not after playing 10-15 min and loosing
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12 years ago
You guys would do anything (even play while knowing that everyone got moved by juggler) and win/lose elo. Also knowing that guys who were juggled, were unaware they were going to lose/win. No one care to ask what they think.

But sure sfireman....
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12 years ago
Hey, I dislike fireman as much as 98% of the ZK community, but he's absolutely right in the case.

Should 1v0ry have !exit game at start? SURE! Juggler ruined game and it should have been exited.

Should 1v0ry have !exit game after 15 minutes and he's losing? NO!
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12 years ago
Admins often do what they want, not what is right.
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12 years ago
If admins use !exit after 15 minutes and losing, why should another admin not use that against you?

If you don't be fair to others, others will be not fair to you.
Maybe you join a game where the one you made angry is !voteboss-ed :D
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12 years ago
notice please that only trolls complaned ie: sfireman and [i]burp.
admin abuse seems doubtfull.
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Yup, exit at the start of the game or resign next time Ivory, just to avoid this kind of thing.

This is really not a very significant or important match though.
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12 years ago
i gotta agree with sfireman this is a very clear abuse of admin powers.
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12 years ago
^troll as well
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12 years ago
Ofc anyone against you is a troll

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12 years ago
At least it is only about some elo points and not IPs or Planets.
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Skasi
12 years ago
Elo is more important than that, Neon. IP/Planets are just silly bolololox. Elo is needed for proper balance (thus for proper games).
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12 years ago
Skasi - it doesn't sound like the game in question was a reasonably fair fight. Thus, from the standpoint of using Elo as an accurate gauge of relative skill to help balance games, it would have been best for there to be no Elo rating change based on the results.

However, if an admin is going to let games continue when winning and exit them when losing, that introduces a bias into the Elo ratings, which affects their accuracy and degrades their value as a means for balancing games. That should be strongly discouraged.

This is all quite independent of the unfortunately rather common view of Elo as some kind of prize to be fought for by any means necessary, which is retarded.
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12 years ago
If you get 2500 elo and lose a single game - you know how much elo you will lose?

The real balance breakers are idle accounts.
Idle (long term idle) accounts should merge their elo difference to default to the community,
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12 years ago
Degrading elo over time is actually a really nice idea... Due to school and IRL stuff I haven't been around as much as I'd like, and as such I'm not really as good as my elo might say, although with some practice I'm not terrible. Perhaps lost points should be put into an AFK pool and they would be bonus points for casual players regaining lost elo?

should probably be new topic... didn't meant to derail the thread :)

[0C]1v0ry_k1ng: an admin !exit-ing a game is 10x worse than nubtrolls !voteexit-ing a game when they are losing imo. just resign next time... who cares if it was some silly game.
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