psaniac carry?

even DRP wants hermits ded

Please put berthas on hold fire. Unless you're on my team. Then never put them on hold fire.

Define "they do weird shit".

The reason I questionned "weird shit" is because that often implies there are bugs, as in a player is specifically asking an entity to perform an action and it does nothing or something different. I'm not saying you were implying that, but because you didn't specify, this is the most reasonable assumption I think.

For me, the reason fire state changes nothing is that I only build berthas after valuable targets were found. I build berthas when I know they'll be in range of singus for instance, and that I can't build a silo because it would be too close to the front and be impaled/sniped/raided. In that case, the berhta is given a force fire order on the location of said target the second the blueprint appears and I can look away and do other things because I know the bertha will carry on that order as intended. The result might be that I kill the singu, or that I infinitely hit walls/shields. It's not a guarantee of success, but I know for a fact the bertha will do exactly what I ordered it to.

The reason I mocked setting berthas on hold is because I think that's advice given by and for players who spam berthas way in the back of the base, before they know anything valuable will be in range and probably never will, so they're used as 6k metal suppression fire machines. You never see that in palladium, and for good reason. It sucks. Attempting to shoot anything else than porc at the front is prone to missing because of a combination of the berthas are imprecise and units move. Also as you pointed out, targets become unavailable either because they disappear from radar or move out of range, causing the bertha to slowly turn as it retargets. I see that as a failure to provide meaningful support. For the same metal odds are a silo would have been more effective at pressuring the front, or more artil, or porc creeping... anything else really.

Berthas struggle to make cost in the vast majority of matches that I have seen. If both sides spam them, all that happens is the game is forced to last 20+ minutes as mid map very slowly becomes a no man's land and both sides escalate to super weapon. If either side put their metal in something else than bertha, by the time the other side would have enough to be dangerous, the front would have been pushed back far enough for the berthas to be in silo range.

You're right. Let me correct. Berthas never make cost.

Watch this match B2432821 23 on FolsomDamDeluxeV4 and tell me a bertha could have done a tenth of the work the silo did.

If that is your takeaway of that match I don't know how to explain this to you. Inferno pushed back the push on the bridge and stunned enough units for guaranteed kills and reclaim in favorable terrain. Without it, there was no 18 minutes bertha. Also, 18 minutes bertha could have easily been a trinity which would have done far more than whatever lucky shot a bertha could happen to have had.

Or maybe dedicated "loose reflections on big bertha" thread