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Trollcoms are useless

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11 years ago
Recently i had a game when 2 upgraded trollcoms were unable to contain my rocko spam from single assisted factory. In most other games my cloaky spam beats field commanders as well.
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11 years ago
Then they were used badly. You didn't even say what the com configuration was. Any config I can think of would beat rockos if used properly.
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11 years ago
ZK has some features which look fancy but are useless, like trollcomms, zeniths or bugged nuke sub :P

Trollcomms are for trolling so don't expect much from them.
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11 years ago
Nuke sub is fixed in latest stable :P
(but we use old version now because of spring 91.0)
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Looking at your profile, Your coms aren't that well designed for trolling. Neither have cloak, which allows you to escape quickly, or any dguns which can be useful but require manual aim to do so. Try looking at the profiles of other trollcoms that do well against you.
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11 years ago
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Looking at your profile, Your com's aren't that well designed for trolling.


this.
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11 years ago
Now seems like every com is called troll com WTF?
I dont understand why coms have this "trollcom" name attached at all.

Dgun com is normal dgun com it is good at what dgun com is good at - dgun'n'run, but thats not trolling there is no other proper way to use it.

Of course there can be ugly setups like all HP modules thats trolling itself or lack of knowledge, but thats rather rare.

So normally they should be called like they always were - dgun com, sniper com, canon fodder com, speedy com and so on. Somehow troll + zk become too much associated.
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11 years ago
I think the term trollcom has stuck because in many cases coms are not cost effective, and those who morph them to level 5 from the start are "trolling", no matter what type of com it is.
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11 years ago
Pretty much yeah, even the most well designed coms can't be depended upon for more than annoying other players. For the metal cost it takes to get them to lvl 5 they are relatively easy to kill if you can target it.
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11 years ago
I agree with wolas. See "what are commanders actually for?".
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11 years ago
You must understand that trolls are predators. Cooperative aggression is statistically favorable. If you want your team to win, following the trolls plan is in most cases a better idea than just letting everyone just do everything on their own... but thats only if you want your armies to move.
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11 years ago
Also, troll comms make for fantastic baiting ambushes
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11 years ago
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If you want your team to win, following the trolls


made my day.
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btw, applied trollcom of @Saabir

http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/168370

or me

http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/168402
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11 years ago
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following the trolls


you know, thats the most logical thing anyone has said to me all week...

these statments are true:
trolls are high skill players
trolls have a plan
trolls plan is for the awsomes
even if a trolls plan fails, the fail will be an epic fail

USrankCrakKCRacKKrAkK I <3 you!
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trolls are high skill players

Not all trolls.

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trolls plan is for the awsomes

Not all plans.

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trolls have a plan

But this is actually quite important. A team with a plan almost always wins against a team with no plan as long as they cooperate on said plan.

Too bad that most so-called trolls actually suck at leadership, at conveying their plan and playing with their allies to execute it.
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11 years ago
+1 to your leadership statement.

But how is leadership possible? Only with a reputation like godde has (currently)?
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11 years ago
By simply trying. And being friendly.
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11 years ago
Did nobody see my MIssile com destroy and entire porc on it's own? Annis couldn't hit it cause it was just outside the LOS range and he was just picking away the enemies.

Commanders are not multi-role in this game. They either build, or they fight.
If they fight, they either Skirmish, Artillery, Raid or Assault. Commanders cannot riot, cause their tools are insufficient to do so.
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11 years ago
you can absolutely make a riot com. get 2 riot cannons, maybe napalm warhead and riot gun enhancement modules, all range modules OR all speed modules. this will rock all raiders, but lose to anything in a hard shell. try it if you dont believe.
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