Restrictions for new players on PW hosts

Agreed. I dont have anything against new players, but there REALLY should be some restriction when it comes to competition servers. It discourages experienced players from playing, clans get frustrated because they lost only because 3 newbies in team did nothing.

The simple answer is to remove communism to enable the skilled players to pick up the slack.

I just played a 3v1 due to noobs that did not fight and did not cap mex. I spend that game trying to fight 3 players with less then 1/3 income. Not only did I try to fight 3 players with 1/3 income, I had to build 3x the mex just to get 1/3 income because my noobs did not mex. If I was not loosening my metal to noobs I would have 3 times more metal because it was I who tried to cap all the mex. they did not even cap some mex in there very base. I would have been 9 times stronger if not for communism.

Fighting over mex is a good thing any how it makes sure your team tries to get as many mex as possible incited of oh some one else can do it... even if I have to wait 5 min for them to do it.. or indefinently. FAIL. Atleast give the player who already has noobs at least a 1/3 equal footing.

If it does not get through 1v3 is bad
1v3 coupled with 1/3 the thier individual eco = 1/9 : 1/1 communism makes noobs an even bigger problem! BIGGER!

With out communism players just fill up the space the noobs did not and get played to do it.

We're not removing communism.

The entire grid system is purely based on allyteam, how would you say who receives what? Completely individual grids are inefficient.

With communism you can grab all the land you can get with no risk of angering your teammates. With individual mexes such a grab is not nice and even if you eventually take where they're not expanding too it's polite to hold off for a while.

In short its mostly technical problem. Nobody is able to create overdrive without communism atm.

If you do, good luck, its in mex_overdrive gadget.

Again its technical issue - how big %? Dont forget income depends on energy input too and energy can come from various sources

That is technically possible i guess.. however people might abuse it.
At some point it could be better to rebuild mex to reset timer

Better would be to just give a portion of the base income to the mex owner (overdrive is always shared).

Ideal would be a pop-up slider when you click on the metal resource bar. You can drag for % of base income you share, which also determines the % you get. If you slide it down to 50%, you contribute 50% less to the teams metal income pool but you get 50% less metal from the pooled income, too. You could set it to 0% to get all the income, which means opting out of communism entirely.

The problem with this is you will get passive aggressive greediness (especially with mex-fighting), but if 100% share is the default option and you only change it if your allies really arent pulling their weight (there is no incentive to do so, otherwise) it shouldnt be too bad.

Of course, overdrive is always shared.

But while we can discuss this and come up with some sort of ideal solution that fits all scenarios, it requires implementation, which is not trivial.

Communism if fine. If your team is full of noobs you lose.

"Communism if fine. If your team is full of noobs you lose." -Jasper
I saw this a lot in planet wars... players would try not to play often voteexiting until they got a balance they liked... so clearly some thing was not fine for them.
I will play with noobs If I think I can make a difference, a difference which communism prevents.
I would be better to encourage people to play.
There was a planet wars post that requested that people below lvl 10 xp be excluded from planet wars. Tho it may still matter it would matter less if the noobs hindered their allies' ability less.

http://code.google.com/p/zero-k/source/detail?r=3833

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