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Map: Red Comet
 Red Comet
Title: 1v1: All welcome!
Host: CZrankElerium1
Game version: Zero-K v1.1.8.2
Engine version: 91.0
Battle ID: 189920
Started: 11 years ago
Duration: 12 minutes
Players: 2
Bots: False
Mission: False
Rating: Competitive
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Team 1
Chance of victory: 90.5%

GBrankTheSponge
Team 2
Chance of victory: 9.5%

DErankCane
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NLrank[XIV]Floris
DEranktopf
RUrankAdminikinz
CHrankborisofzerty

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GBrankTheSponge
11 years ago
(edited 11 years ago)
As usual, massive porc ruining a game. I could not go round, I could not break though, I could not kill his commander. How long is it going to take for people to realize that it is obscenely overpowered?
+0 / -0


EErankAdminAnarchid
11 years ago
I think if Cane gets into top10 by porcing entire time, it will be adequate :)

This is called "abuse till nerf". Start doing it yourself!
+2 / -0
GBrankTheSponge
11 years ago
Ok, I will try that. Hopefully it wont take too much abuse until it gets nerfed.
+1 / -0

DErankAdminmojjj
11 years ago
(edited 11 years ago)
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top10 by porcing


i doubt that is possible.

will watch this match tonight, but im a non-believer when it comes to porc is not beatable. my playstyle is very porcy and com-centered too and look at my ladderpos ;)
+0 / -0
ATrankJohnHunter
11 years ago
(edited 11 years ago)
Well, you had killed his fac and almost all his units and pushed him back to 20% of the Map, this making it impossible for him to raid, so you should have focused a lot more on expanding eco the second you killed his Fac, which would have given you an big Advantage, instead your ecos were kinda even.

Then you suicided Wave after Wave of your Units into the enemy Defenses, giving him even more Metal. Also you didnt make an single Hammer or even an sniper as they are good anti porc units; and combined with the more Metal income you should have gotten from map-control would have eaten his Defenses up.

Instead you wasted 600 metal for a second(gunshit)fac, And if you wanted to make a second fac, a skuttle would have easily killed his exposed Frontline Comm resulting in stopping his defense rush.

I know its easy to say after watching a replay, but i dont think he won because porc is op. But simply cause you made the wrong choices in countering his porc.
+3 / -0
PRrankScrangos
11 years ago
(edited 11 years ago)
Im impressed you almost with cloaky vs lv, but llts arent that hard to deal with man. If you absolutely must stick with cloaky id get hammer/spotter. If I had been in your shoes i wouldve started naked mexing like crazy made an airfac and phoenix/aa. This owuldve forced aa from the other guy and cleared a lot of mexes/llts. But a relatively small commit, 3~ phoenix. Then switch to shields or lv and use slashers or rogues and push with ground to air. Or could also go for tanks/repairs. Use planes to defend from gs raids.

When you find it hard to advance on all fronts due to porc the usual answer is swapping to air. Llts can shoot gunships so im kinda iffy about going GS against porc. The meatier gs just feel too slow to come out and too slow to clear things.

Ps. that 2 zeus push probably wouldve worked if you kept pulling them out for repairs and adding more.

Pps. With the rogue/slasher thing, dont push into the stinger, push around it. Gonna need hammer/pheonix/impaler/racketeer, a lot of assault, or clearing the llts and swarming with raiders... Id rather go around it.
+1 / -0
GBrankKyubey
11 years ago
(edited 11 years ago)
Klon got into #2 spot with porcfest/planes rush playstyle...
but other then klon there are no top10 players that are porcers (except when they are trolling. case in point:behepush on http://zero-k.info/Maps/Detail/7291)
+0 / -0
GBrankTheSponge
11 years ago
(edited 11 years ago)
I think that the problem was the rate he was getting LLTs at. If I had got a jumpjet factory I could have skuttled DErankCane's com but I didn't. With hindsight, I just played this one badly.
+0 / -0

DErankAdminmojjj
11 years ago
2 words: EXPAND and EXPAND. and arti.

more intel. you had your radar VERY late. or patrol with some lonely raiders. then you will see he had NO mobile things at all and you can EXPAND calmly.

and dont suicide units if there is no urge. if he allows you to EXPAND ... do it.

and maybe focus on things that boom coms effeciently.
+1 / -0
PRrankScrangos
11 years ago
Zerok is a bit odd when it comes to dealing a blow then focusing on eco and winning that way like you would in starcraft. Its a lot of eggshells your still walking on. Spending too much on arti can backfire and lose you the game if he stops making porc and makes units behind it.
+0 / -0


USrank[GBC]1v0ry_k1ng
11 years ago
the thing about ZK is playing well forces you to use brain

if your strat is not working, you need to change strat

case in point: mass defences counter small waves of units

counter is small number of heavy units that retreat/repair, artillery, planes, or just saturation part of the enemy line. in the event that an opponent stops raiding you should immediately expand.

failing to adapt means you are just reciting a build order and deserve to lose, most the time.
+1 / -0