The reef

This is what carrier drones are for, planes need independent control, auto attacking would be terrible.

AA firing at landed bombers may be a problem, because you cannot control whether your bombers return to (someone elses) carrier.

how then? lol
I had also problems with that cause it takes ages to repair a heavily damaged bomber on that ship

By moving them away from the carrier every time they come near? That's a tad too finnicky. The point is that once they land on that carrier, you have no control over them. I suppose thats true of any landing pad that is poorly placed or finds itself suddenly on the front line...

You can specify a pad for bombers to land on by right-clicking on the pad.

(but it only works once without repeat)

sgree with that a landed airplane should be considered a ground unit. Doesnt make sense if AA still fire on it when its landed.

Which is what you get for trying to keep "special" weapon types in game.

Maybe AA should only be able to attack units that are a certain height above ground. Yes, this will make jumpers take losses at some times due to hacksaws sniping airborne pyros. SO what.

I meant that as distance from unit to ground directly beneath it, not to ground beneath the aa gun. So buildings and other units at higher elevation than the aa emplacement would be safe, as long as they do not lift off.

Anthem:
How do you define "raider"?

Is Venom a raider, because the fac does not have any other raider and venom does a lot of (even if only EMP) damage?

More outlaw style weapons would be nice.
We have no AOE+EMP mix!
We have no Slow+AOE mix which are not centered around the riot unit (outlaw)
I would like a gluten cannon!

@Rafal> It is engine issue and can't be fixed easily. Each unit has one category and plane is plane no matter where it is.

That is right and wrong.
* It is an engine issue
* But it can be fixed very easy

You can let AA units only fire at "HIGH_ALTITUDE | HEAT_EMITTING" and spawn and kill any "HIGH_ALTITUDE" or "HEAT_EMITTING" unit inside any unit - jumpers, gunships, drones, planes - on demand.
The very same works with any amphibious unit and torpedoes with "TORPEDO_TARGET".

This unit can have - collide=false, velocity=INSANE, turnRate=INSTANTLY, order=GUARD/FOLLOW.

Planes could have drop-able heat bombs which move the "HEAT_EMITTING"-unit out of the plane to distract some missiles.

Missiles could be units which have fuel (and crash if their fuel tank is empty) and target the closest "HEAT_EMITTING" target. They are only fired if the tower sees "HEAT_EMITTING" targets.

The re-targeting if one possible target dies make the AA-micro widget of jseah obsolet in most cases.

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Back to topic:

Consider how often your drones die and if you want your bombers to be dead KZZ.

actually, a plane on a reef is higher above water than when landed on ground/pad/fac... this is everything messed up.

a workaround would be to (morph?) instantly the plane-unit(flying) to another plane-unit(landed), which has land-unit type? but that sounds terrible...

The proper approach would be to have a the engine expose more information about whether an (air) unit is landed or not (I mean, they're folded up and immobile, it's not like the engine doesn't know) and likewise when a land unit is airborne (they're flipping around and can no longer move along the ground, it knows) and use that field.

But either way, since this requires multiple engine changes to be performant, I doubt it's ever going to happen.