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12 years ago
Well I hope with this something will actually happen :)

Idea is to make trailer of short and funny clips(5s - 30s) this should be fast and interesting watchable by anyone, you know these videos something like "best scenes" from X, maybe even each "story" with different music separated by some 0.5s TV noise. So we could pick up best clips and make 1:30 funny trailer.

If 1/10th of you would made 1 video we would have ~30 funny videos and could pick up best make such video/trailer. Even pasting link into doc to demo is already nice. Also we should setup online(how to enable /cheat and so on?) complex scenes which cant be done alone(like crabe scene find it in doc I tried to make it 5+ times each time crabe walks down...)
I wrote mine ideas here feel free to add your ideas, by add I mean add dont modify other people ideas, unless its some minor fix. Add videolink if you had done your or other people idea, or demo link (best is to use vimeo since it allows to download raw upload file)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1b2umeArR0m02L2KAyYPqPjOdMkLkKfaEhw1O40OWF90/edit EDITABLE BY ANYONE

Format 1080p on highest settings use ctrl+shift+F10 to pop up encoders window(works on windows only) or whatever on linux, I had to reboot after 20day(its not server so its high!) uptime to windows...

INSTRUCTION how to get solid 30fps video on max settings with whatever PC:
"raw" unedited video shouldnt be longer than few mins or you will have horribly big files size.
0. Generate idea, or use doc above to find some funny ideas. Use these cmds for faster to setup scene(write into chat) /cheat /nocost /globallos /give unitname(/give commrecon2 /give corrsumo, give 100 /corrcan (jack) and so on find all units in zk svn/units/*)
1. first record demo.
2. playback demo, it is in demos folder double click it(zero-k lobby doesnt show local demos?). Or open with spring. Then either use lichos camera recorder(read help it kinda works) or use just static camera or alt+t to track unit
2.1 hit ctrl+shit+F10 game will freeze you might need alt-tabing or task manager to get to the encoders window(minimize spring from task manager and encoder window will pop-up, use x264(I dont even remember how I installed it) codec on fastest(might need reencode) or "high compression"(then you can upload it straight to vimeo) and set quality quantesizer to constant quality to 5 or less. 1 = too big file 50 too shitty quality ). Best is just to run spring in windowed mode, I bet even 1600x1050 screen users can do 1920x1080 in windowed mode so there is no excuses!
2.2 in case you recorded with fastest compression and file size is too big or if you have slow upload you might want to reencode on higher compression but lower file size, better just use high compression(this doesnt mean bad quality it means slow compression)
3. file is in My documents/My games/spring/video*.avi upload to vimeo and modify doc add link to "story"


this was just test, since my laptop wasnt able to playback 1080p at full speed (1.1GB x264 file) video was choppy I thought that that ctrl+shift+F10 works badly, then I thought bitrate was too high but I was lazy to reencode it to 720p so I just uploaded it to youtube and after few mins I saw that video isint choppy at all. Specs are CPU c2d 2.2Ghz, GPU 9600gt so hardware shouldnt be problem to anybody. For me it was 1 - 2 fps when recording from game.

If you need help to make your idea true, feel free to ask mine help I will help at most of times(still how to enable cheating when hosting games?)
I also need help on some scenes.

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12 years ago
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Also we should setup online(how to enable /cheat and so on?) complex scenes which cant be done alone
no need, to controll all teams:
/cheat
/spectator
/godmode

To get internal unitnames:
http://zero-k.info/Static/UnitGuide
and mouse-over the pictures.
Quicker than clicking through units\ folder...
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12 years ago

Party hard finished with music and so on.

Generally sound capture is such a pain... So no sound from game.
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12 years ago
Best trailer ever, really shows off how it is to play Zero-K.
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12 years ago
Another bloated shortie.. It seems that mine timelimit 5-30s is impossible to achieve for myself lol!

Revenge Sweet Revenge


WATCH IN 1080p
You cant imagine how painfull for my laptop was to render everything at 1 fps it would be shame if someone would watch it at 360p ;)
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12 years ago
just a question about licensing:
What problems can you get as uploader of a unlicensed soundtrack? Any experiences? Maybe knorke?

When the vid is nice bug has not licenced audio, it cannot be official trailer anyway i guess...
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12 years ago
I was thinking the exact same thing. For an official trailer you just can't do that. For some troll-lol vids it is for the uploaders' own responsibility.

Risk is that the audio will get disabled or your video gets removed.
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12 years ago
When I want to show people what is Zero-K, I show them these:
- For what Spring is about :

- For how crazy games can get :


What is sorely lacking is a GAMEPLAY video, showing the UI, the mouse movement and orders given, and all the advanced things you can do in Spring/Zero-K you can't do in other games.
It would be even nicer if there was a well-done audio commentary explaining all those things.
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12 years ago
there are a couple of those
http://www.youtube.com/user/XtaReplay/videos?query=tips+and+tricks
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These are not trailers. Just "stories" I failed to fit them in to 5-30s mark so its just stories now. Idea was to have 10 of them into 1:30 funny trailer. FAILED Horribly.

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just a question about licensing:
What problems can you get as uploader of a unlicensed soundtrack? Any experiences? Maybe knorke?

When the vid is nice bug has not licenced audio, it cannot be official trailer anyway i guess...


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Any reason why those quote's aint working?
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12 years ago
I think [quote] only works on a single line.
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12 years ago


this time blocked in Germany, so it really depends on what song you use.
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12 years ago
That spring video is really dated. Something like that showcasing ZK would be good.
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Which one? The first one I linked? I find it very good, except that it doesn't have Zero-K in it...
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12 years ago
It was called Complete Annihilation back then ;-)
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12 years ago
license:
i saw someone made a video with a 10 sec snippet of that "gangnam style" as intro and his right to upload videos longer than 15 minutes was removed. But i think that is rare, usually the worst that happens is that the video will not play in some countries or says it this says "music licensed by blabla, this has no effect on your account."

Anyway there is plenty of free "no license at all attached" music on sites such as soundcloud or bandcamp. If you just want some random technobeat that is perfect imo.

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What is sorely lacking is a GAMEPLAY video, showing the UI, the mouse movement and orders given, and all the advanced things you can do in Spring/Zero-K you can't do in other games.
imo not interessting to have a whole video about UI. Nobody starts playing a game because "the interface might be nice."

don't have linebreaks after or before the quote tags.

the google doc link is not public?

When someone makes a video why is it never posted in the zK news?
Also why does nobody visit me in my appartment and pet my cats!
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12 years ago
For just uploading copyrighted video you wont harm your account status in any way it will be just removed when you nicely agree that content is not yours. Its also possible to workaround music recognition there is tutorials...

it was public... until I messed with directories...
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1b2umeArR0m02L2KAyYPqPjOdMkLkKfaEhw1O40OWF90/edit
also this thread is closed there is no any interest by community to watch these nonsenses and I m not even talking about making. And I admit its not that they were funny... damn imagination works best...
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It was called Complete Annihilation back then ;-)

Yes, and since the video is mostly showing off the graphics, you don't see anything from Zero-K in it (which has new unit graphics now).

Also note that this video is using proprietary music (Path by Apocalyptica), and has not been removed.

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imo not interessting to have a whole video about UI. Nobody starts playing a game because "the interface might be nice."

On the contrary, TA fans and RTS fans generally might give it a shot ONLY because of this. Most games have prettier graphics nowadays, you need something else to stand out.
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12 years ago
improvements to the replay control would encourage making videos.

HIGH PRIO:
-jump to a certain time INSTANTLY
-play backward/jump backward

this might be an engine thing and complex to achieve...

LOW PRIO:
-set the location to save files (different fom game data folder)
-widget with record button and functions like encoding ingame (without windowed mode)
-resolution setting DIFFERENT from screen size

i dunno if the last point is possible but i have only 1680x1050 screen :/
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12 years ago
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-jump to a certain time INSTANTLY
type /skip number
number = second to skip to

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-resolution setting DIFFERENT from screen size
windowed mode



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On the contrary, TA fans and RTS fans generally might give it a shot ONLY because of this[UI]
the UI allows experienced players to controll every little aspect, if they want to. But that is only ONE thing that makes a good UI.
The rest is a bit fail. In reviews the UI is almost mentioned as a weak point.
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