FUSIONS NO LONGER CHAINSPLODE THEY WANT TO GET RID OF FLEA CANONS 1 ANTINUKE NOW COVERS WHOLE MAP GAUS/FIRE NO LONGER PENETRATES WHAT NEXT!!!
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Now breaks my wooden shoe
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This occurred to me aswell. it seems any viable strategy just gets nerfed to the ground lol. well I guess easy wins are getting stopped. now we have to sweat as equality as other less intelligent beings instead of using out of the box tactics to turn a game around.
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Well start using your superior intelligence to come up with new out of the box ways to pwn less intelligent beings.
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we do... the troll !!SCIENCE!! division is working night and day to bring you new ways to abuse less intelligent beings for ??? and profit! why just last week forever showed me a brand new way to abuse the spring engine, and fireman produced a strategy to win every game at minimal effort. [if you deserve to know, you will discover them yourself]
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None of these things are true? Except we might remove flea cannon yeah, it's free uncounterable scouting, everything should be counterable.
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What does gauss/fire no longer penetrating have to do with making it easy for newbs anyway?
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i just had fusions not chain in a game, fusion right next to one another survived with 76hp antinuke buff was huge, now nukes are usless unless map is bigger then 20x20 gaus/fire are no longer effective at all against the super nub-ball of doom simply put its dumbing down the game
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The antinuke change was 2000-2500, a 25% increase. Gauss/fire will still penetrate, it will just no longer do hit sphere dependent 'crit' damage.
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i just had fusions not chain in a game, fusion right next to one another survived with 76hp |
http://code.google.com/p/zero-k/source/browse/trunk/mods/zk/weapons/atomic_blast.tdfFusion explosion was last changed Aug 20, 2011. http://code.google.com/p/zero-k/source/browse/trunk/mods/zk/units/armfus.luaFusion was last changed on Jun 15, but only a nerf to pylon range. Other changes going back years appear to be only translations and fixes to help texts, and a change to the icon. Nothing to do with the balance of the unit itself.
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gaus fire dosent penetrate atm, i just wached a dets gaus cannon rounds pinging of a massive shieldball ill test the fusions, but last time i was a fusion chain ingame it did not chain on death (maybe engine related bug)
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yeah I seen shields stopping deti :D
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Without even testing I can confirm from experience that fusions indeed dont chain now.
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Seemed to chain last time i saw them made in such proximity. Might be dependant on density of placement and type of weapons used to kill them, anything with AOE will damage the nearby fusion likely, putting it over the chaining threshold. Gauss and fire still penetrate units. If shields are too buffed as a mechanic (especially with advent of Funnelweb, which is capable of tanking Shockley at full charge), shields might just get nerfed instead.
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the thing is, shields are fine as they are... gaus/fire was fine as they were(vs shields), even after the outlaw nerf... so you will now nerf to fix something that was nerfed to fix an issue that didn't actualy exist. this will probably cause more issues (that didn't previously exist) meaning you will nerf more stuff...
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This is called "veteran bias". You grew to know and master the game in one form, so you will resist any change. We've seen it with Klon defending planes, because to him, game naturally included planes being what they were.
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:P wachins a det shoot fruitlessly against a shieldball is kinda painfull anarchid... its painfull to wach!!! DO YOU UNDERSTAND?!? now to block a det you only like 10 big shields wich is in a way lol, but also kinda porcy and stupid now ALL gaus/fire units are broken vs shields, while being balanced vs evrything else
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I didn't actually get why gauss needed to be nerfed not to penetrate anymore. Fire was fine (especially in the context of pyro vs shieldfac), but gauss?
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