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Spires OP to hell

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12 years ago
for those of u who actually play chickens....NO spires destroy u
they do way to much damage to much fly time and not enough reload time
13 spires = 30+ spire shells floating around
upon whcih u have no chance in hell of winning or even killing them unless u have a nuke or 3

NERF SPIRES!!!
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12 years ago
Dont know what kind of spire chicken is, but even "nightmare" chickens are too easy I think. We have won them on duck, coast to coastv2(water map with only 4 mexes 8x4) Maybe chicken eggs are still chalange. Nerf is definitly not needed.
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12 years ago
Not a challenge when get tons of annihilators and shields :P
what is a spire?
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12 years ago
Spires are the minor defence towers that spawn around untargeted nests, as shoot sporeshooter rounds at targets. I'm guessing they are rather hard to deal with when they are clustered together, as Ive dealt with them easily in 2s and 3s(course I was using my levels Napalm Rocket com)
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12 years ago
Oh thanks,also their AA sucks bombers(Licho or Firestrom) works very well against them.
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12 years ago
Not if you let the chickens tech.

You should spam some bandits - not glaives very early, send your com to get the metal and Athena to build the stardusts.

If the 5 to 10 bandits are dead, build some warriors and 2 or 3 chainsaws.

Now they have a tech reduction and spam more units so that you can reclaim more eggs.
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12 years ago
It is OP, for a person never want to build a shield.
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12 years ago
Chickens with no shields?
lulz

Maybe you can use Krows - but they got nerfed :/
( We really need the old Krow back !!! )
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12 years ago
no im talking not using cheap ass unit spam to win, thats so sad and easy then,
and we had 15 shields which were all drained in about 10 seconds
and no sht small maps with chickens are easy as hell too and spires outrange tachy by like double the range or so dont remember
licho and firestorm dont work if theres about 20 toads there

unit spamming chickens is noob and not any fun or even a challange
try something besides units for once in ur life....new krow = epic fail, the so called d-gun couldnt hurt a fly
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Skasi
12 years ago
Seriously Numb? You use the dgun to throw units down cliffs, to throw enemy roaches back at their units or whatever, not to damage them directly.

I agree though, chickens need a riot unit to counter raiders. As for spires, they've never been a big problem. Annihilator- and Behe spam should be enough to win against chickens without any shields though. They outrange anything, no?
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12 years ago
Chickens needs riots
Players needs non-builder unit limits.
We need strong recharge structures for shields to avoid shield spam and lags.
* Maybe there can be some things only/not available in chicken games?

We need FAST units with much HPs and the ability to destroy this damn Spires.
* hover-lichos with kbot movement and high elevation?
* * throw the bomb in the old arti like style?
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Skasi
12 years ago
I really don't understand why you complain about Spires. Do you talk about the tan- or about the green colored once? Both seem pretty underpowered to me, if anything.

@ riot talk: Those chicken crawling bombs need to spawn earlier, they are pretty nice anti-raiders.
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12 years ago
Yes, but "suicidal" bombs are easier than "normal" ones - because they can chain explode :D

They don't have to spawn earlier only - they should spawn more often too.
And they should spawn if you have a high aggro rate.
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12 years ago
Just so you know, next version will have much fewer spires (current version actually has none due to a bug).
Spires will only appear if you've been porcing like a dumbass.
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12 years ago
You're actually -meant- to use units, which is why chickens spawn bucketloads of artillery and the blobbers are even designed to eat through shields like a tremor. One of the big problems we've had is that all the chickens are -too- good vs mobiles, and too poor vs statics, so all anyone ever does is porc.

We've actually worked fairly hard to get units to be required in order to go into chickens territory and take out spires/arty.
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12 years ago
the best thing would be a fast Jack with low damage.

We need more expensive units with low damage but really high speed + moderate HPs for that Job.

If the static shields would be larger and we get recharge structures, than we can simplify the charge distribution script ( reduce lags ), build nanos more away from the defenses later game, and chickens run more likely under your shields.
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12 years ago
i dont want to HAVE to use units to even have a chance to win
epic porc can win or spam can win, not spam only wins
and the rock chickens are awesome....but theres almost no AA to counter them.....cobra no, chainsaw no
they are pretty much lichos...but they dont return to base to re arm
they stay in your face till u die
rocks may need to e nerfed cuz i had a bunch of cobras and all kinds of other things and it did almost nothing to them
and then by the time i killed a few everything was destroyed souly by them :(

nice with the diggers, killed my own base bcuz tachy felt the need to try to shoot them right next to a sing

@skasi then it shouldnt be called a d-gun, call it like a repulse gun or something dont lead me on hoping for something awesome when its just a newton bomb
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Skasi
12 years ago
It's the button you activate with the D key. What other name would be more fitting?
The weapon is called 'Singularity Beam' by the way.
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12 years ago
make a explosion like from Singularity Reaktors, compress the volume to a ellipsoid beam-like form, and the name fits as well as you want :D

Due to the low damage of Krow and the short range of this "D-Gun" it
* should have more AOE
* be a Sunburst Cannon( range + damage )
* fire faster
* bypass shields
* don't respect the unit's weight / do more gravity damage to big units / hit them more often
* do damage if units collide with another one
* instant-destroy a single unit( except units like Bantha / Demitrant / Juggernaut )
OR
* the Krow should get a light shield

I have a case where one support com instant repairs a Flak so that Krow fails to instant build flaks - that's WRONG !!!
If the dgun can instant kill units instead do only damage to mobiles this silly things aren't possible any more.
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12 years ago
> ...one support com...
Maybe that's wrong.
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