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Title: [A] Free For All
Host: Nobody
Game version: Zero-K v1.9.8.0
Engine version: 104.0.1-1544-ge1f249f
Battle ID: 1183316
Started: 2 years ago
Duration: 65 minutes
Players: 10
Bots: False
Mission: False
Rating: Casual
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Team 1
Chance of victory: 2.2%

NLrankswappan
Team 2
Chance of victory: 0.7%

PLrankRafalpluk
Team 3
Chance of victory: 80.4%

GBrankPRO_rANDY
Team 4
Chance of victory: 1.1%

unknownrankChomolungma
Team 5
Chance of victory: 0%

GBrankSoggyWOTSIT
Team 6
Chance of victory: 0.5%

CArankGalamesh
Team 7
Chance of victory: 0.4%

unknownrank1RAVEn
Team 8
Chance of victory: 0%

FRrank[MNB]Anestos812
Team 9
Chance of victory: 14.6%

GBrankPRO_Dregs
Team 10
Chance of victory: 0%

DErankHeldenstein

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Further to the conversation ATrankJohnHunter, NLrankswappan and myself were having in the spec chat of this game:

People are allowed to play in team games in ways that do not necessarily offer the best possible chances of success in the current game. If this were not true, then nobody would get to play their first planes game, and so nobody would learn how to play planes. "Play for the mutual success of the whole team" does not mean "play in the most optimal way you know how", it means "make a reasonably good-faith effort".

Similarly in FFA I do not think we should necessarily expect people to play in the most optimal way they know how, only to make a reasonably good-faith effort.

It is far from clear to me that "Faffing about and trying to arbitrarily kingmake on the far side of the map with Revenants so much that your base gets swiftly rolled by a neighbour who is lower rated than you" qualifies as a reasonably good faith effort. But I do not think the fact that NLrankswappan explicitly said they knew this play not to be optimal, on its own, violates the Code of Conduct.

(On a related note, I am not enthusiastic about myself, any other admin, or even the admins as a group being regularly called upon to determine what qualifies as sufficiently bad-faith play in a FFA to warrant modaction. It is potentially an extremely subjective decision. If it is clear that the community requires a judgement to be made, as it was in the RedEagle business a few months back, then we can and will make such a judgement. If it is not clear that we must make a judgement for the good of the community I expect we typically will choose not to.)
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2 years ago
Cool seeing a game where you can't predict the winner until the final minute!
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