I've been thinking about how annoying it is that ravager's turret turnrate is less than it's unit turnrate. I want to buff it to make it turn it's turret 50% faster so it doesn't take a huge dps hit when it turns. In the past ravager was ok at hitting scorcher and that made 1v1s progress into ravager spam to break the midgame porc. This match I eventually started to spam ravagers in a large game setting, using cloak fields to approach paladins and larger assaults, and blazing accross the fields to attack. I used 65% hp retreat orders, repairing my ravagers frequently to keep attrition in my favor, got BigPurpleHeart award. In this setting ravager spam was very good to me, I don't have to manuver too hard against a slow huge paladin/grizzly/minataur.

Just thinking about if ravager should be good in this situation and also better at combat manuvering.

Dart is also a victim of this, which seems really bad. You can circle a glaive and not fire at all in some cases.

Imo with some units the slow turret turnrate is a balancing decision, aiming to force players to use the unit in a certain way, limiting its versatility.
For example Ravagers are - as I see it - meant as fast and relatively maneuverable, but if you exploit ALL of the maneuverability they usually lose some DPS - so you must be careful how sharp turns you take.

If u wish to keep shooting - moderate turns only.
Escaping a threat - sacrifice some dps and make a hard turn.
Same is true for most of Tank factory.

However, for units like scorcher and darts, who are raider/scout class, this seems absurd, especially considering that their maneuvering often cuts dps in half.... when all they have to do is take a factory down, which is very clearly not returning fire.
Firewalkers endless cycle maneuvering without ever firing also seems like a oversight.

So as I see it, ravager, mino, cyclops should stay the same... but for scorcher, dart and also firewalker increasing turret turnrate would make sense.

Ravager is perhaps a bit annoying, but I also think it's a balance thing. Also I would have to take a closer look at Minotaur so perhaps it should be a ticket. Unit AI reducing DPS isn't necessarily bad as there is a tradeoff between damage and safety. Staying further from enemies reduces DPS in many cases.

If Minotaur would have to expose itself to more damage to deal more damage then its unit AI may be working correctly. Attack move isn't something you just get to set and do something else, it is the command that tells units to act in a way that prioritises safety over damage.

GoogleFrog: A possible example of the turret issue is the northernmost Minotaur at 09:48 in this game: http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/1162744

Which, by automatically turning, wasn't able to attack a Ripper due to slower turret. (This was inconsequential both tactically and strategically in this instance)