chuddy send 3 snitch on our morphed geo
then games end

I saw it survive on 100 health then tick down by increments of 10 and 20. Gibs deal 10 damage so my guess is hard to spot gibs from nearby explosions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_video_game_terms#Gib

How much do gibs increase the damage of blastwings? I feel like for a few units it's pretty substantially?

For what purpose? Chudy
(a) made it perfectly clear that he had no interest in modifying his antisocial behaviour
(b) hurled vile abuse at anybody (moderator or otherwise) who indicated they didn't like that antisocial behaviour
(c) not being satisfied with having abused those people in the moment, went on to conduct an ongoing campaign of harassment against them

Moderation actions exist to either discourage or prevent behaviour which damages the community. "Discourage" is clearly a lost cause here, so we have ended up at "prevent".

edit: If anybody feels the need to contribute their opinion here, which I do not at all encourage, understand in advance that any line of argument that runs along the lines of "Chudy never abused me so he must be an okay guy and deserve to play Zero-K again" will only attract my disdain.

Frankly, yes, the workload is too great to give Chudy a year-long ban. I'm speaking from experience.

Giving the worst people shorter bans leads to a revolving door of people with grievances against moderation. The information asymmetry is such that trolls can spread their stories and get vague support from uninformed third parties. The most problematic are those that are nice to a few people and don't interact with a lot of the community. In the worst case we have had this sort of "embedded troll" blow up over warnings, snowballing into drama where uninformed third parties post wild takes about things that didn't happen, which the trolls encourage. None of this makes the community a nicer place to be in. Even discussing it makes this a worse place.

madez I'm partial to your view, but you have to realise that you have very limited information. This thread is pretty tame, but it is still part of the work of moderation. If we hadn't already banned most of the long-term malicious trolls, then you could bet that this thread would be swarming with them, supporting Chudy by twisting what is said and taking every chance to discredit moderation.

Be realistic, Zero-K is more like a sports club than a whole society. Nobody is owed membership in their local spots club, and if they did what a few people do around here, they would be quickly permanently banned. We're also spilling a lot of ink over the small percentage of people who are incompatible with a nice online community, and aren't going to turn that around any time soon. At some level you just have to trust moderator judgement because it is too expensive to give you all the information and context. And when you're quibbling over 1 year vs. lifetime, it feels like you're basically already there.

Even more realistically, if Chudy returns in 5 years as a completely different person, it seems unlikely that anyone would kick up a fuss.

madez

Don't. I have no clue on the chudy-case, but I can say that

quote: If we hadn't already banned most of the long-term malicious trolls, then you could bet that this thread would be swarming with them, supporting PLrankChudy by twisting what is said and taking every chance to discredit moderation.

does not come out of nowhere.

Honestly, I think our community is better without trying too hard to include difficult players.

It genuinely does drive new players away from the game and we don't have the luxury of being able to do that.

We'll have a larger and nicer community with stricter moderation.

They will also learn there are consequences to actions.

Chudy was a pretty social guy and often joining voicechat while playing.
Has voicechat been brought back to the Zero-K discord?
Talking about lifetime bans, I still haven't received a clear answer to what I can do to get my discord ban revoked.
Anyway, I can still enjoy voicechat with others at the Fightorder discord.