~01:40 Trojaner_ trash talking about like he would still contribute to the team even if hes afk cuz of his rank - (but offensive speach against new players as seen before in other games)

~04:00-05:00 strikeshadow building the first lotuses of the south eastern team and reclaiming his own fac for faster nuke rush.

~06:50 Trojaner_ loses a Athena to chumtoadafuq ´s Toads, the wreck lands within range of strikeshadow ´s and Killingtime ´s caretakers which start reclaiming it while Trojaner_ is trying to rez it.

~07:10 enemy spider attack diverts caretakers attention away to focus on repairing in stead of reclaiming, Trojaner_ manages to rez his Athena.

~09:00 Trojaner_ `s athena gets shot down, wreck crashes within bloa `s caretakers range, the caretaker gets destroyed by enemy.

~10:20 bloa orders a Mason to area reclaim the area which was previously covered by the caretaker.

~10:37 bloa `s Mason starts reclaiming Trojaner_ `s Athena wreck which is currently beeing rezed.

~10:50 czesio pings the reclaimed rezing process, Trojaner_ pings bloa
strikeshadow gives area reclaim order to the area north of the Athena wreck slightly includeing the wreck.

~11:00 Trojaner_ telling bloa to stop

~11:25 strikeshadow `s weaver arrives and also beginns to reclaim the Athena wreck during the rezing process.

~11:30 Trojaner_ initiates a !kick bloa vote.

~11:35 bloa notices and orders the Mason away, Killingtime votes yes (wtf???)

~11:48 Trojaner_ trying to contact strikeshadow

~11:57 Trojaner_ gives up on the Athena wreck

~12:00 Trojaner_ orders his Athena to reclaim strikeshadow `s Trinity (Building progress 2.760/8.000)

~12:05 Trojaner_ "fuck you" to strikeshadow

~13:00-15:30 strikeshadow notices, stays passive

~15:37 strikeshadow moves his com as to let the Trinity go or not to. (mental conflict)

~16:00 strikeshadow watches his Trinity disappearing

~16:30 strikeshadow tells Trojaner_ to stop reclaiming his Trinity

~16:33 Trojaner_ tells strikeshadow "you can fuck off", "you reclaimed my stuff"

~16:50
Senaven: "wtf team reclaim"
@Torjaner_: "he did the same"
Killingtime: "who?" "kick him"
Senaven: "both bad"

~17:05 Trojaner_: "i pinged him at least 50 times" (not entirely true, he called him out the rest were anyonymous map marker pings)

~17:10
Trojaner_: "he doesnt give a shit neither do i"
Killingtime: "whos him?"

~17:20
Trojaner_: "strikeshadow"
Killingtime: "!kick strikeshadow"


~17:24
strikeshadow vote NO
Snowlob vote NO
Trojaner_ vote NO

~17:30 Snowlob starts building a singu next to Trojaner_`s Funnelweb which is beeing bulit useing the trinity metal.

~18:05 strikeshadow: "!kick Torjaner_"

(not working cuz other poll is still in progress cuz develobs still didnt fix the poll jamming thing (example: when you bulid a super and dont want the enemy team to resign so you can "enjoy" the superior firepower obliterating the enemy base a bit longer you can simply go to menu, press the windows key type in "!poll resign" mark and ctrl + c it, go back ingame and spam it, after a few sec type !endvote before enough people can actually vote in chat, press enter twice hit ctrl+v and enter, repeat) is a way to jamm every vote, no matter the team.)

~18:35
strikeshadow: "ok he has almost full reclaimed my trinity" (587/8.000 Metal remaining)
Senaven: "kikc?"
Snowlob: "yes"

~18:40 mojjj paused the game
Trojaner_: "look", "he did the same"
mojjj: "ALL STOP RECLAIMING ALLIED STRUCTURES OR I WILL KICK"
Trojaner_: "to me" (wreck, nanoframe theres a difference)
Killingtime: "oh the reclaiming" (is he now playing dumb? but voteing "yes" before?)
Senaven: "report them bouth"
Trojaner_: "why didnt you care when he reclaimed my stuff"
strikeshadow: "it´s to late" (Trinity 547/8.000 mojjj acted indeed to late)
strikeshadow: "he reclaimed almost all of it"
Trojaner_ "i thing i pined enough to draw anyones attention" (only a handfull of people used to pay attention not even mojjj else this whole mess wouldntve happened)

mojjj unpaused the game

~18:50 Senaven: "didnt saw u pin"

~18:55 Snowlob: "not report strine the rez reclaim issue is common knowledge"

~19:05 @Senavemn: "report after game must be" (yay even more reports just for fun! Not like this entire thing is one big missunderstanding)

~20:25 Snowlob blows up Trojaner_`s Funnelweb(financed by strikeshadow `s Trinity), S-Hub, Jumpbot fac useing the singu, mojjj `s Airplane fac and Airpad also burst in the blast as colleteral damage.

All in all a escalated missunderstanding between Trojaner_ and strikeshadow and a Snowlob punishing a Teammate which he shouldve left for the mods to do.

Lessons learned

I wouldn't care that much about reclaimed Athena if he didn't ignore my request to stop so blatantly - that's what pissed me off. Athena was resurrected to 90% or so, then first bloa comes to reclaim. He stops after I pinged him but of course strikeshadow starts reclaiming after him on purpose.

quote: Katastrophic game

i wonder why!

This game was reviewed by multiple admins, and it was determined that strikeshadow most probably didn't try to reclaim the Athena on purpose (and wasn't reclaiming it for anywhere near as long as bloa had been, either). If you look at Snowlob's post, Trojaner_, you can see Strikeshadow had a very narrow window between starting to reclaim your Athena (with an area reclaim command covering a sizable area) and when you decided to eat his Trinity.

Reclaiming the silo was blatantly on purpose and has a much bigger impact on the game than reclaiming an Athena. The same goes for building and detonating a Singularity to punish someone.

bloa and strikeshadow were just not paying as much attention to the chat and minimap as you thought they should be.

yes it`s a nice way to claim wrecks exclusively for a single player.

quote: so we don't have this kind of drama every time someone tries to resurrect something

you could also not initiate kickvotes and start drama the next time it happens.

Nobody is forced to escalate dramatically when their resurrection target is accidentally reclaimed. Avoiding this type of drama is not solely waiting on a technical solution.

Besides, I think I would rather completely rework resurrect than work on the current implementation. It is terrible on a technical level.

quote: can we technically prevent reclaiming allied nanoframes while these are being built?

YES PLEASE!!!

Problem: Everyone wants to have fun with the superweapons.
Solution: Make superweapons controllable by all (with some sort of command cooldown)

quote: Just to give people a realistic idea of what to expect, I do not really think it is expected of moderators to necessarily perform any moderator tasks while they are active players in a game. That being said, if a playing moderator does happen to have the time and wherewithal to deal with something that does not require spectator vision to adjudicate, like outright verbal abuse in allchat, there is no actual problem with that either.

I can agree with that. I think that moderator can't see everything while playing so mistakes can be made. Scores should be settled after game mostly. Except if moderator directly see offense. I only noticed drama when it started with nuke silo reclaim. Also i fixed bloa kick vote but though that it was some troll vote with no serious reason. As Trojaner_ making kick votes frequently in games.
So i don't see any problem with mojjj.

look at it from that angle:

- I assume your goal was to win the game.

- How important was that 1 Athena in the grand scheme of things?

- Your pings and votes got your teams attention. was that a good thing? very likely not, because you forced peoples attention away from the front towards a totally unimportant wreck.

- You obviously caused a lot of social tension within your team, distracting it even further.

- You drove the escalation so far that people blew up their own base.

- I was absolutely convinced that the situation was bad, not worth to put in more efford, and was about to make a resign-vote. Then your base blew up.

- In my opinion, you single-handedly made your team lose because you couldn`t let go of a single athena-wreck.

- You sabotaged your own goal succesfully.

quote: I might start a lot of kick votes, but I assure you that in 90% of the cases they are justified.

Its not on me to judge if your actions are justified, BUT:
Even if they are somehow justified, they are not necesarily helpful at the same time. I used to rage a lot about "noobs", i gave up on it as i realized it`s just not useful for my performance ingame. too distracting, too emotionally draining. Not just for me, but for many people in my team.