epic zenith and nuke

zenith was finished at 33min.
if trinity was high-prio and not metal starved there were ~11 nukes.

That is like 80k metal. it still took 30 minutes to end the game, and that only because west didnt organize properly to make use of 3/4 of the map, or finish sl, or push south.

we will be on the same team again, so please: dont take this as "epic zenith" or "epic zenith and nuke".

also, west had 100k metal advantage and wasted it.

Idk why it`s fun to eat rice with a knife instead of a spoon, but ok.

TechAUmNu

i specced most of the game. there was a time when i woundered, who was coordinating the nuking and i checked the person holding the nuke, the person with the swifts and the person with the silo. it was all Karfagenn at this point. i didnt check the other nukes/stuns/scouts before or later. the time was when the nothern part of the map was nuked. so no, it was not sarcasm, just a snapshot in time.

Watching through the replay

Sodbuster using cloaked snitches, maybe a little wasteful (3-4 for a single unit kill sometimes)

10min Karfagenn move orders 3500m of fleas to the back of the map, they all died without killing anything.

Mid for east is now a ball of cloaked impalers and lances.

_OverlorD_ finishes singu west, east already has 3 singu at this point, south has 2 cloaked firewalkers and juggle defending for west, east only has snipers and juggle
There are 14 area cloakers!

13min TechAUmNu bombs 4 impalers with licho

15min TGess loses 2 licho and almost a 3rd trying to bomb ships

16min South, west now has no firewalkers or sumo, Prototypestill doesn't use snipers to push. Anti started south and backline north, east nuke finishes, _OverlorD_ nuke 30% built. TechAUmNu scouts but doesn't see nuke.

18min Sodbuster kills 3 grizzly with cloaked snitches, top rear anti finished, south 50%, east nuke eta 1min , zenith 15%, TechAUmNu scouts and sees nuke. Top told to make anti.

19min bot east mid anti finishes, east nuke eta 13s, west pushing well top and bottom

19:34 nuke finished, zini scouts but scout dies, top finally start anti

19:40 zini scouts again, east nuke finished, west top anti 4%, east zenith 18%

19:59 nuke fired, anti at 20% eta 1min. So it is possible anti could have been finished in time.

no reaction to nuke from top, nobody moved anything lol, nuke kills about 6k of defenses and random units. North now has 1 merlin and 1 grizzly to defend. West bot is porc fortress with 3 cerberus and 6 area cloakers

24min West Top is overrun by a large army and about to lose, _OverlorD_ fires west nuke at army, makes east army scatter, nuke kills 2k, most of army suicides by running forwards. East nuke eta 40s, zenith 50%. Entire of bot is cloaked (and cloaker is not a problem...)

26min West top pushing back with large army with help from bot. Prototypestill kills east singu with tacnuke

27min zini fires 2nd nuke, west top army scatters and loses 8k, Prototypestill kills 2nd singu with tacnuke, zini scouts

28min Prototypestill tacnukes east nuke once, but loses silo before firing another. east nuke lives and wall built to defend it, zenith 65%

30min East pushes north with 14k army, _OverlorD_ asked to use nuke, nothing happens.

31min _OverlorD_ gives nuke and swifts to Karfagenn who has built silo, they scout with the swifts, emp anti and fires 2 nukes taking out majority of east's top base. Honestly very good nukes.

32min Zenith finishes, TechAUmNu scouts directly at it, but can't reach it due to mass AA and emp.

34min Zenith fires at nuke but doesn't kill it. zini fires 3rd nuke, hits anti

36min Zenith fires huge volley at top army and kills 1 funnel lol, west bot trying to push with paladin, scorps and jacks. Get's killed by zenith

37min TechAUmNu emps anti south 3 times and asks for nuke. zini scouts

38min _OverlorD_ starts silo in front of TechAUmNu's, Karfagenn starts one in front of _OverlorD_'s.
_OverlorD_ starts reclaiming silo, zini scouts the silos

39min Karfagenn silo gets zenithed and emped, TechAUmNu comes to help and makes a wall to protect silo. zini fires 4th nuke, kills most of wests ground army north.

40min Zenith kills a fusion and shogun

41min Karfagenn given nuke silo again, fires 3 emps to stun 3 anti, 2 anti are stunned, 3rd is under a funnel. Nuke fired and gets intercepted by anti. Silo killed by zenith.

42min Karfagenn fires nuke at top kills base again. Silent_AI scouts. West starlight 40%

43min Zenith tries to kill west nuke again, still alive. JohnHunter makes good push with Paladin north and kills dante and artemis. Forced back by cloaked lances.

44min Zenith tries to kill some nimbus and misses them all. zini nukes top army, doesn't kill much. Silent_AI scouts and sees Starlight at 60%

45min Zenith kills anti over Starlight and everything around it.

46min Zenith kills second anti top Silent_AI scouts, zenith kills 3rd anti. Sodbuster didn't know we have no e...

47:05 anti started by Sodbuster next to starlight, nuke eta 40s, nobody helps
48:05 nuke fired, everyone starts helping anti, eta 15s
48:18 nuke lands, anti eta 5s. Probably would have finished in time with help, but unlikely to change outcome of game. Sodbuster blames JohnHunter, but there was 5 other caretakers next to it from others that also didn't help.

49min nothing has changed bot, still all cloaked and front hasn't moved. Sodbuster doesn't understand zenith has aoe

51min Zenith finally kills west nuke which has 3 waiting to be fired, army top was exposed and easily nukable

55min Zenith finally kills antis bot, zini nukes bot base

56min Zenith kills top anti

1h zini nukes bot again, top starts a detri, Karfagenn has a sneaky nuke in the middle of top, fires at east army as it walks past

West resigns.



So JohnHunter, sorry I got you confused with Brah who had the same colour.

It is really hard to scout through a deep area of instant hit aa. I should have invested a lot more into scouting, although even if we had scouted the zenith earlier I am not sure how much impact it would have made due to its placement.

Prototypestill, best to make enough tacnukes to kill things and then fire them. They had time to counter the silo before you had time to build and fire second tacnuke.

I think Karfagenn was a bit greedy with nukes and could have swung the battle at bot by killing the army + defences when TechAUmNu emped anti.

Kitty116065 didn't use zenith very well, game could have been ended much faster by using it to just kill the anti's and then nuking. Instead it was used to attack random targets with varying degrees of success.

Starlight was a really bad idea.