OP Puppy?

Puppt might not be considered as OP when u look at its stats. It is actualy quite well balanced. The problem starts when, in longer games, there is a huge metal lwasteland lying on no-man land. Then, 1st who starts spaming puppies win.

Puppies multiply and tahts their bigger problem. If u make 5 puppies, and put it near enough metal, after 20 seconds u would get 160 puppies as an output. And you need no cons to reclai nor BP to build. Impresive isnt it?


5 ---4s--> 10 ---4s--> 20 ---4s--> 40 ---4s--> 80 ---4s--> 160


2ndly there is no way other than Detri to stop such a huge swarm. Even roaches fail hard usualy, as pupies take no DMG when they are airbone. So when roach is coming puppies jump to kill it, then roach explodes and barerly deal any damage.

Sollution? - I'd suggest dividing puppies reclaim power by 2, and making them reclaim metal, not multiply themselves.

Why? - Now eating such a wasteland is getting faster and faster as more puppies appear. If they reclaimed metal, not multiplied, player would have to spend more metal on BP (nanos) to make more puppies faster, and ofc it would took mroe time to bring new ones into the wasteland.

But such a metal can be spent into i.e. a Detri - yes, thats why I suggested decreasing dividing reclaim BP by 2.

i thin puppy has a feature for this game that you dont see in anny game. Why change it? I consider it epic and it costs 60 metal to built. Its enemy's fault that he doesnt reclaim and let puppies reclaim his field.

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...keep in mind that trading for cost against puppies is harder than it sounds. 40% of your investment will be converted to puppies if it dies (and leaves a wreck).

It's interesting to see puppy become OP just because of changes to the other jumpfac units which just makes the factory more common and makes people remember puppies are a thing.

Puppies should possibly goo slower, though I always felt that would be the tradeoff for them gooing at 100% efficiency rather than a flat nerf. I would not want to see them lose their special power and become reclaim-only cons, that's lame.

Frankly I think if this is truly a problem in big team games it's from players sucking and not adequately contesting wreck fields. You can't just throw away units, and you need to make cons as part of your regular build queue to start eating those wrecks.

As for counters, anything with HP will waste puppies unless they're on holdfire. Halberd, Razors kisses, crabe, etc.

Imho, the puppy BP is the reason teh unit rides the OP/UP rollercoaster. They have an obscenely high BP/cost ratio, especially since they're both building and reclaiming at once. This high power is also why their combat-effectiveness-per-cost is kept low, because you can easily build a swarm of them with a good wreck-field. When you build a puppy, they seem UP. When you get near-infinite puppies out of a 10,000 metal front-line wreck-field in a blink of an eye, they seem OP.

I'd like to see it buffed as a combat unit and nerfed as a reclaimer.

I guess they've been pretty stable since they lost the ability to eat map-features. It just felt like before then that people were constantly complaining they were OP/UP. Now it seems that everyone settled on UP, this is the first time in a while that somebody complained about them being too powerful.

puppy goo looses 50% of the metal it picks up...

this is an old ninja change that i dont belive EVER got removed from them
(its also not listed in the unit description, so really evil ninja change)

really, i thought a goo puppy cost 100m, but maybe it has been changed...

puppy is only a problem in massive neebfests really