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Being banned because of liers

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Firepluk
>> PENALTY: Trolling, self-d then resign B268659. General obnoxiousness (as a spectator STFU).

1. Trolling. Lies.
But yes sure, u can always say i'm trolling because my nickname begins from [TROLL]. No need to find any reason: "Gosh, look his nickname starts from [TROLL], BAN HE!".
This is much easier, isn't it? It does not require you to put some thoughts.

2. self-d then resign, the only "proofable" thing in the ban. Lies.
self-d BD and factory because they were useless - no air support.
I could rather lost them on enemy territory but i did _not_. I reclaimed wreck and switched to other strategy.
Please note, I did selfd my own things, that belonged to me, and I reclaimed them. I did not resign immediately to troll the game. I was trying to do what I found the best - make screamer, because team had completely 0 air.

10 minutes later, yes I resigned, because team lost all land completely, not my fault. And replay perfectly proves it.

http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/268659

3. General obnoxiousness (as a spectator STFU).
because [G0G0]Dancer was crying for 2 hours. Of course I said stfu, who wouldn't.

So for what exactly was I banned for 3 days? I demand a precise answer, with an appropriate verifable proof.

So to put a line, for what exactly was I banned? WHAT I did wrong?
Probably I was playing not like someone expected from me, so what? Does it really deserve ban?

So IMHO, the most punishment I deserved is a mute, though I was not insulting everyone, this is just a particular phrase took out from a context.
I even tried to help a newb today, giving advice and stuff how to play, what to do, etc.
+4 / -0
11 years ago
I didn't see any trolling in that game. A few irritating votes and a potentially premature resignation, but no bannable trolling.

There was a mixup about who was going air so there wasn't going to be much support for sfireman's gunships. Then he reclaimed his gunship factory and used the metal for a scorpion to counter the growing shieldball from East Team (I think) and a screamer to cover for the lack of air on West Team. Sfireman resigned 5-6 minutes after self-ding and reclaiming his factory when everything looked lost. Was the replay reviewed before banning?

I have never seen anyone banned for something like this before, and 3 days seems hugely overkill.
+3 / -0
Firepluk
TheSponge,
1. I did self-ded my gunships factory(I was thinking it should give me wreckage for reclaim, but it didn't)
2. I self-ded my BD and eat wreckage.
3. None of this were made for trolling/making us lose.
BD would anyway die on enemy's territory without air asap and I did not want this.
4. I started to make screamer as close to front as I could, and it actually covered half of the map. I completed it.
By the point of it was completed team completely lost all ground.

Yes I understand this was probably not the best idea self-d factory, but damn, I really though it should give reclaimable wreck. All self-ed units gives it.
So I kinda o_O why I was banned for 3 days

Yea, I used some offensive words, but who would not use them when one guy is crying at you for 2 hours... "He ruins games, etc." Though I was not doing anything really awful/harmful. Everyone has lose streaks, isn't it?

At least at this game, http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/268659
I was definitely not the reason why we lost. Well probably I could do better, but should I really be banned for this? %)
+1 / -0
Firepluk
All of this is quite disappointing.
For another time I got banned for the things that bring no really harm to players.
Someone just did not like how I play/look at him. He reports me a few times during a day. I got banned. It seems like nobody even tries to explore the reason of the report and hardness of punishment if any.

On the other hand, for example, Erikon who team killed his allies yesterday _on purpose_, got just day(or maybe 2) ban. Where is the justice?
+0 / -0
1 & 3. Trolling and general obnoxiousness. This is over many games. As a spectator you tend to 'hassle' players like someone yelling at their TV. Calling them nubs and pointing out how they suck at whatever they happen to be doing. If you on a team at some point you will probably tell them how much they fail for several minutes and then spam !resign votes.

If you resign and your team does not follow you in resignation then they have decided to play on. At that point you are no longer a player and should have no say in the game. The people actually playing the game get to decide where to take the game. Don't harass them while they are trying to play a game that you no longer want to play.


2. With this you don't get shades of grey. How many units are you allowed to self-d? I assume you know that reclaiming a live unit is 50% while reclaiming debris is 20%.
Edit: You did not know about that efficiency? Ok back to mute then.
+5 / -0
Firepluk
11 years ago
AUrankAdminGoogleFrog I was REALLY surprised to see no wreck from self-ded factory(I found it a bug, do you?)
And I agree I was harsh to some players, so I find mute reasonable.
+0 / -0
Firepluk
Did someone just completely broke zkl?
I connected and see no rooms and no players at all... Everything is empty and my mute doesn't work^^
+0 / -0

11 years ago
+1 / -0
11 years ago
Make vacation, then you come back fresh as the flower and wont rage.
+0 / -0

11 years ago
expressing negative emotions is against the rules fireman, thought youd have learned that by now

this is friendly land where only friendly people are allowed to speak
+0 / -0
11 years ago
quote:
expressing negative emotions is against the rules fireman, thought youd have learned that by now

this is friendly land where only friendly people are allowed to speak

If some people had their way we would be /b/ by now.
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