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Claw: a building or a unit?

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2 years ago
I know that there's very little distinction between units and structures, but at least conceptually you won't normally call Stardust a unit or a Glaive a building. Bombs are also clearly mobile units. But what about mines? Should Badger mines be considered buildings? Like other structures, they don't have a means of transporting themselves and can't be transported. They can't be constructed by a builder, but they can't be user-controlled like other units, either. The wiki says it's a building at the time, but I have my doubts.

So, what do you think, for the purposes of Zero-K, is a mine a unit or a building?
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they can't be user-controlled like other units, either

They can, they respond to orders normally (attack orders in their small attack circle, self-D, fire state...).

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for the purposes of Zero-K

Depends on the purpose, sometimes it behaves like one or the other. In some ways it behaves like neither (for example it has a ghost site, like a building, but it disappears immediately when it dies without requiring scouting, unlike proper buildings). In some, like a building (can't be thrown by Lobster/Newton or transported). In some, like a mobile unit (doesn't block terraform). It's a bit like asking if a mushroom is a plant (because it can't move) or an animal (because it's not green).

From a technical engine PoV it's an "immobile", which is a broader category that contains buildings, but has a bunch of exceptions to rules that normally affect immobiles.
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Thank you, that's a very complete answer (and the imagery is a little disturbing in the first version of that post, but true).

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They can, they respond to orders normally (attack orders in their small attack circle, self-D, fire state...).

Ah, yes, sorry. Was thinking mostly of just moving things around, forgot you could do other stuff with them, too.

That mushroom thing actually bothered me a little when I first heard about it as a kid. But if I were to sell them, for example, and I had a Vegetables and Meats sections, I'd put them into Vegetables. A mushroom at least seems to be closer to plants than to animals in that regard. I guess that's the kind of thing I'm looking for here, too. Not really the exact definition, but what it's more likely to be perceived as.
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2 years ago
It'd be absolutely fun if it can be thrown by lobs and newtons.
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2 years ago
i would like it if they left reclaim so i can finaly grow badgers for the enviroment
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