Some games unplayable after update

That is concerning, and thanks for the video. Can you gather a bit more information by doing the following?

• Find the time where it suddenly stops running well, and send a video with /debug view over that change.
• Check that the very high Swap (blue region) happens without the video recording attached. The high Swap is quite weird, perhaps you need to use Fullscreen or something, because sometimes I get high swap while tabbed out.
• Check '/luarules profile' as well, since sometimes you synced lua might be a bit high.
• Upload at better than 720p so I can read the numbers. The engine debug view is ok due to the colours, but I don't think I'll get much from '/luarules profile'. Or you could take some screenshots and send them.
• Send your infolog from the game. There could be something crashing and trying to restart. You should be able to watch the replay then do this: https://zero-k.info/mediawiki/Reporting_Bugs

Your computer specs will be in the infolog, but you could also post them here for simplicity. I had a look at what BAR is doing regarding multithreading, and it seems to do the same as ZK.

For now, here are some things to try.

• Fiddle with different window modes. That might fix the giant Swap issue.
• Try removing multithreading. Go to your ZK folder, find springsettings.cfg, and add PathingThreadCount=1 and WorkerThreadCount=1 as new lines to the bottom.

I have sent an issue, directly responding to engine dev enquires there would be helpful: https://github.com/beyond-all-reason/spring/issues/1566

Thanks for the reply.

quote: Find the time where it suddenly stops running well, and send a video with /debug view over that change.

Its a gradual decline in performance, until it cant keep up and falls behind the simulation. I could make a video just watching the replay with debug view up, however I don't know how much use that would be.

Sounds like thats a simple case of cpu not being powerful enough, however just to make sure i watched the game that took place directly after the problem game, and it ran fine. Not buttery 60fps smooth, but i played in said game until the end completely fine, when i literally couldn't in the previous. I also noticed the high swap in this game as well, maybe its just that there were so many units in the problem game that my cpu just couldn't keep up? and every other game i play just has less units? not sure as i recall the lag in 4v4 games, could be wrong though.

I've also been playing this game for like 3 months now, 2 of those in big teams all welcome lobbys. and I've only had this issue for a week or two, so you'd think i would remember it not running well back then, when i don't.

Additionally, i was only at 50% cpu usage, with nothing else running. Probably not significant, as i assume thats just poor multithreading, but still.

quote: Check that the very high Swap (blue region) happens without the video recording attached. The high Swap is quite weird, perhaps you need to use Fullscreen or something, because sometimes I get high swap while tabbed out.

Here's a screenshot taken at about to same time in the replay, in fullscreen: https://imgur.com/a/uOs42Fu

And here's one in windowed. seems about the same: https://imgur.com/a/A1fyrxc

Tried Switching between windowed, borderless, fullscreen, and then checking the debug to no avail.

quote: Check '/luarules profile' as well, since sometimes you synced lua might be a bit high.

Don't know how to disable the player names on the right side, as well as the chat covering up the text. https://imgur.com/a/x6vD8hQ

quote: Send your infolog from the game. There could be something crashing and trying to restart. You should be able to watch the replay then do this: https://zero-k.info/mediawiki/Reporting_Bugs

And here's the infolog of me opening zk, watching the replay up to 15m (when it starts falling behind) taking the screenshots above, and then submitting the report. https://github.com/ZeroK-RTS/CrashReports/issues/110280

quote: Your computer specs will be in the infolog, but you could also post them here for simplicity. I had a look at what BAR is doing regarding multithreading, and it seems to do the same as ZK

Specs are: 16gb ram, Ryzen 3 3200g cpu, gpu is cpus integrated graphics.

Definitely not a gpu issue, as I can play BAR at low-medium settings just fine. and I'm playing zk at below lowest preset, minimum.

quote: Try removing multithreading. Go to your ZK folder, find springsettings.cfg, and add PathingThreadCount=1 and WorkerThreadCount=1 as new lines to the bottom.

Will try this tomorrow, have to sleep.

Same for copying my BAR settings to zk.

Let me know if you need any more information.

When did you last play BAR? We are constantly updating the engine in parallel with BAR, so if you last played over two weeks ago, then the issue may exist in BAR for you now as well.

Ah it looks like shadows are being set ingame too, for some reason. Try this

• Untick Simple Settings in the ingame menu.
• Go to Settings/Misc and tick Advanced Settings.
• Go to Settings/Graphics/Map Detail and set "Shadows cast by" to "Nothing".

You could also type '/shadows 0' ingame, just as a test.

Why are the unit models visible in from far away in all your ZK videos and screenshots? Rendering all that is probably more than you can afford. Did this only happen after the BAR settings? There might be some incompatibility there. Type '/disticon 120' to get a more normal distance.