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Can we PLEASE nerf hermit spam?

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USrankbbar97
37 hours ago
It is getting out of hand... No single unit should be as powerful as hermit spam is. Even the things that should be counters for it don't work very well. I think lowering the health just a little bit would do the trick.
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unknownrankaioeieoiao
27 hours ago
Make placeholder and eat those hermits
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AUrankAdminGoogleFrog
23 hours ago
Collect replays and post them.
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USrankUltraGodzilla
19 hours ago
Behold hermit power

https://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/2422950
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USrankbbar97
15 hours ago
quote:
Make placeholder and eat those hermits


Doesnt work when they also pepper in a few other ranged units that easily kill the placeholders. Plus that only helps with preventing them from moving forward temporarily. They can just keep building up until they find a way to kill the placeholders
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CArankvxd240
7 hours ago
After the tracking update:
https://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/2426334
Before the tracking update:
https://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/2426331

Any change seems to be insignifcant. I ran another two tests on these but concluded my methodology was somewhat sloppy in those. However in those failed tests I did note that the density of hermits does seem to have an effect of their capabilities. We see here, that the spread out hermits die surprisingly quickly. I can conclude, althought not confidently, that the Brawny Dante tracking update had very little to no effect. As as can see the bandits actually perform better before the tracking update. Of course there is also the possibility something is wrong in the way I conducted these tests, but I found them to be somewhat fair. One of course cannot deny some of it is up to the luck of the draw, but it does seem it's about equal before and after the update.
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AUrankSnuggleBass
6 hours ago
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This game I hermited and won an entire side of TheRockFinal by myself* against three people: https://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/2424939

However, I did have air support, and one of their players was air. My opponents were defecent (2400) on spiders, bumaya (1000) on shield, and Qubic (2200) on air. I also had greater income due to my team being down a player, and I had an additional com which didn't get used much. I didn't really do anything except monohermit, and it felt like the lane came down to more hermit beating less hermit.

This game I also monohermited: https://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/2423708
Defecent (2400) went fencer. There may have been an opening where he could have pressured me, but he missed it and I bum rushed him down once I had a few hermits. While the other team killed one of my team mates, I took the map with hermits and then finished them.

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AUrankStuey72727
5 hours ago
What are viable counters to monohermit?

I feel like I haven't seen many players actually counterplaying.

Ogres seem to do it if you have enough.

Phoenix do if you have enough.

Knights seem like a good counter to me - I haven't seen many players counter with.

Lances are okay, but you do enough enough of an army to hold them off.
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BErankSparkezelPL
5 hours ago
From what we have found so far, best units are rogues, bouys, knights and dante. The issue is however, that a blob of hermits can just push them for half the map while the skirms are busy pummeling at it. Here comes placeholder I suppose. The range of hermits is pretty good, especially if they can get themselves a hill. Unless you have some method of constantly applying a DoT on them.

It was a test we did with PTrankraaar https://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/2425965

Also desolators do very good, but they aren't mobile despite all my wishes.
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AUrankSnuggleBass
4 hours ago
https://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/2426408?

This game I ended up hermiting to try and close out a game we were already advantaged in. We did end up winning, but notably my attrition was terrible and I didn't seem to be able to break Mayxi's juggles alone, relying on my team mate to take over the rest of the game.
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FIrankFantasyZero
2 hours ago
Have you tried Rippers?
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FRrankBananaLemur
95 minutes ago
I play most often play Rover or Cloack (without using the cloacking because I'm stupid). I'd rather face a hermit spam than a RedBack or recluse...
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AUrankSnuggleBass
82 minutes ago
Here I tried lobbed scallop against mass hermit. I felt like I had pretty good army size etc., but still never was able to take a favourable engagement.
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