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Let's talk about the merlin

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I heard through the branches that there is thought on updating the merlin.

Proposed changes would be to shorten its range and give it a short ranged manually activated ability.


I don't like that. I don't see the need for the merlin to change at all. Nobody is complaining one way or the other about the merlin.

I need it to outrange luci to counter porc. I don't even care if rockets miss a lot because most of the time you need to punch through aegis before reaching porc so rockets can scatter wherever and still be useful. I also don't care if the merlin doesn't 1shot its target or can't punch through a large number of shields. If I am facing enough metal to stop one merlin, the answer shouldn't be a magic low cost unit that just blasts from artil range. Odin is high damage but even it can be stopped by enough shields and it needs to risk itself by flying almost directly over its target. Damage should come at risk, and safety of range should come at the cost of damage/reload/metal cost... something. Nothing should be both safe and cheap.

If I face enough porc, I'm fine with having to get a second or even third merlin.

The merlin is also pretty much a TAW exclusive unit. It's not used at all in FFA. It's scarcely used in palla? Someone confirm. It's basically not used in FFA either. It's useful in TAW because it's an escalation that isn't a continuous metal sink like silo, but also more precise and bursty than bertha or as expensive as a super weapon.

I need the merlin to remain what it is.

If we get a new strider that is semi artil with a dgun, then fine. That might even be interesting. It strikes me as being the reverse of the old dante, which we just got rid of, but whatever.

I guess what I want to know is this: who currently doesn't like the merlin? Why?
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7 hours ago
Is there a real push for merlin rework????
idk, current merlin is niche but does what it says well enough. slight buff could be funny.... imagine if the rockets got aoe slow
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merlin is unbuildable vs units
impaler and silo do a better job vs porc
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6 hours ago
Except in taw where the map often becomes an impossible mess to navigate and the ball of impalers you would need gets stuck in everything.
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4 hours ago
so i just build a silo XD
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3 hours ago
Help me understand. Are you suggesting to remove the merlin?
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This feels like another "let's create a problem from nothing" in the latest string of them we've had recently.

Can we just... stop changing the game? Merlin definitely is just fine.
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2 hours ago
I'll make another post since its unrelated to the above sentiment.

From #zk and the discord, it seems like the opinion is pretty split.

From what I'm seeing looking through message history:

  • Merlin does it's job well as artillery. Supposedly it feels a little underwhelming, but I'm seeing a lot of comments also saying its great.

However:

  • Apparently it is high maintenance for low value in a lot of situations.

  • Apparently it is hard to use in general.

  • Apparently it just feels overall underwhelming in situations it should be good in.

However, it should be noted that a lot of these complaints come from the same 3 or 4 people, so maybe take it with a grain of salt.

I would be genuinely shocked if we reworked another strider. I don't think the Dante transition was very smooth, and we propped THAT up with mod-based testing - imagine what the reaction would be if we randomly changed something like Merlin out of the blue with no testing or data to back it up.

Then again, Magpie and (soon) Hermit are getting changed due to largely community opinion, so maybe it's in the cards.
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dont touch merlin. it is required in porcfest lobpot. and how else would you roflstomp massive shieldballs. or 1-shot palas at point blank?






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on a serious note on this forsaken map, i faced 2-3 funnels and 10+ shields, you can go with silo (e.g. to precook shields), however, i used 5-7 merlins to overwhelm. the job was interrupted by their DRP going online, but the answer to shields MUST be artillery, whereby Merlin ist the biggest mobile tool available. dont force me to go full Bertha cause nobody likes Bertha. and yes, this already is ridiculous.
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