Dealing with Funnelwebs

I agree about that in low density situations or 1v1, however in team games when there are lots of AA, the drones typically die quickly without doing much while the AA is also likely to drain the shield of the funnelweb. Do AA do full damage against shields?

Another nice thing about funnelweb is that it actually have pretty poor health. You only need 2 Infiltrators to stun it or 2 Skuttles to kill a Funnelweb.

But yeah, if you are just spamming funnelwebs in a 1v1 or a FFA there isn't really a good counter except nukes.

To let it be countered, just have the fly height of the drones be higher than the decloak radius for skuttles. Suddenly, cloaked units counter it.

Do funnelwebs make cost against the other striders?

I've personally never had that much trouble, ensure you have at least some mobile aa nearby to wreck the drones and dance around its main gun


failing that, skirt around it with an ultimatum and approach from one of the rear quarters I've killed 4 or so funnels with one ultimatum doing so, the drones cannae kill an ulti quick enough, even with some support units nearby

I've killed a lot of funnels in the past with ultimatums, they are my number one choice for counter, shadows are another obvious choice

I also saw someone kill one with just a big gang of roaches

I wouldn't be opposed to a minor nerf on funnels, they are possibly a little OP

When combined with a good force of units, they are simply unstoppable, like a titanium backbone to an army. way too resilient and safe. It's like you get the whole army package in one unit, AA, shields, anti-swarm, basically anti-everything

It's almost the perfect army support unit, only thing missing is an area cloak :p

> It's almost the perfect army support unit, only thing missing is an area cloak :p

But you can't cloak the shields even though it might work on units :)


Thinking about it a bit more ... why can you not toggle the shield off and then cloak bubbleunits?

funnels are weak vs:

most artilllery
cloaked trap units(bombs, ult, spy...)
air(planes mainly)
low cost units(spam)
aa(any)

funnels are strong vs:
high cost/low hp units
(this class include ALL striders+comms due to them having shit for hp)
porc(-behe -anni)
tight cluster of units(railgun penetrates)

funnels are:
support units for armies
artillery

funnels are not:
frontline units


not really that op when you write it down

i think there is a misunderstanding here:

the standard use of a strider(non-funnel) is to sen it headlong into a swarm of enemy on its own and hope for the best, that is why the "typical anti-heavy" work so well against them. On the other hand even fairly weak playser use funnels with unit support and behind a layer of defences, this makes them far stronger then they would be on their own and making most ratings of them very biased.

without support units funnels have no way to counter:
2 spies
ult
5-10 sythe
area cloaker+any units
bombers
stileto/rakteers/mobile artillery
(same as dante)

only thing that dosent work is the skuttle, but that is not an issue because a lone funnel will die very quickly to :
zues/jack/ravager/reaper(most heavy assults)
warior/glaive/bandit/(other high dps units)/flea(could work)
hammers(have enough range/speed to kite ad infinitum outside drone range)

at its core its an exceptional support weapon, and works well with armies, or armies of funnelwebs, but sufficient investment into effective counters can kill a number of funnels quite quickly*.

*limited by the shield wall power, if there are 5 funnelwebs you nuke em or you die cause at 22.5k metal 36kshield and several thousand dps in railgun is not going to be stopped by anything else (except behe/chainsaw wall but those are not normaly mobile)


replay of how unsuported funnels(many) die verry easily to air/snipercom
http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/220939

It makes lots of cost, and its not about shield, its about the fireflies that counters well skittles and infiltrators+ dezintegrators in case he didnt lost them already.( in case it didnt lost the drones i ment)

no wories, good old fasioned aspis will make cost vs starlights... as proven in countless castle porc fest ffa games.