Changed naming to what Forb wanted, moved geospots [Spoiler]

In theory yes but then not really, see the previous thread.

Visuals should agree with gameplay. It is bad to have things on the map which look like game-affecting things from other maps. In general it is bad to have prominent things which don't affect the game (greebles are fine, they are basically part of the terrain). Featuring.

I don't understand what that is supposed to mean. What does it looks like when "the visuals on the ground make quite literally no sense with the texture". Regardless, that would be irrelevant point scoring. Do you disagree with the design goal of making visuals reflect gameplay?

They would still need to be reduced in number not to allow a dense wall-off protecting a thing inside. But sure, it would be good to have them if they don't break anything.

Why the asymmetry tag?

It's not about the colvol. It's about the testudo.

The colvol of an energy spire vs the colvols of an energy spire forest:
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Stuff inside can't be touched. Sometimes there is a small opening but you need to manually direct the units there because the pather won't do that and it will still only allow 1-2 units to shoot.

Also, not all colvols are proper:
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Ok so you're having issues caused by terraform basically.

The large crystal spikes are not intended to have collisions. They are GIGANTIC and having collisions attached to them would cause no end of gameplay irritation. They are also never supposed to be part of the play area, this is an issue caused by terraform so that makes it a little special case scenario. As I said, I have a solution for that.

WRT energy spires, I would like to try using per piece collision volumes. That way, ideally, you would be able to shoot through them. Unfortunately, they cannot be used on features. Therefore the obvious solution is to just use custom colvols in the def (include with map) and put them below the map so that they can block terrain, but not block shots.

Sprung, you need to be much more clear.

Energy spires are part of the play area, in any version of the map.

Crystal Spikes/Shards are not intended to be part of the play area.

We are talking about energy spires passing shots. The crystal spikes have to pass shots and collisions anyway. We have no way to do hitboxes for those types of features in a remotely nice way (this is why per piece collisions would be awesome), so that's pretty much a non-starter.


I'm betting that there are probably maps in zk's pool where "visuals don't match gameplay".

http://zero-k.info/Maps/Detail/42158
Does voidwater prohibit terraform in the empty space or do you end up with hilarious floating invisible platforms?

http://zero-k.info/Maps/Detail/7375
Really? :-D

Look, the point is not to disparage these maps, or any others, but to point out that in order to not be annoyingly hypocritical, you sometimes need to loosen your butthole and exercise your ability to suspend disbelief.