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Title: MM 67: 1v1, Rank Singularity
Host: Nobody
Game version: Zero-K v1.9.4.1
Engine version: 104.0.1-1544-ge1f249f
Started: 33 days ago
Duration: 6 minutes
Players: 2
Bots: False
Mission: False
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33 days ago
Fucking kodachi. I realized, in short, this patch is about playing kodachi and imp. Why are the rest of the factories needed, I don't know
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Fucking kodachi. I realized, in short, this patch is about playing kodachi and imp. Why are the rest of the factories needed, I don't know

Nah, you're wrong.

There's also Halberd and Bandit.
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Bandit

Bandit suck from imp
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33 days ago
Hermit master race 2021 has joined the chat
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33 days ago
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Bandit suck from imp

Much less than many other things because its range and numbers means it's easy to attack in lines, rather than balls.
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I think the game was lost by 3:30 due to a combination of:
  • Starting constructor-first and sending it towards the middle with little defense.
  • Losing two mexes at around 2:20 due to moving your commander out when there was a Kodachi on radar (a misclick?) without making any defenses.

After this happens there are no good engagements to take, because you're simply outnumbered. Kodachi didn't seem exceptional in its abilities prior to 3:30, and afterwards there are too many more of them than Bolas to judge.
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33 days ago
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Starting constructor-first and sending it towards the middle with little defense.


The speed of the bolas is less than that of the kodachi, that's the whole problem
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32 days ago
Bolas beats Kodachi 1v1 pretty convincingly. I don't think that is necessarily a problem here.
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I would dispute that Bolas beats Kodachi pretty convincingly in a 1v1 scenario actually, the outcome is heavily micro dependent, like a harder version of Kodachi vs Venom (Venom easily wins in a straight fight but is more expensive and slower, Kodachi can force bad fights with its raw speed and still does passable damage even if caught, despite Venom having the range advantage on paper).

Kodachi has an easier time taking potshots at the Bolas but it takes several shots to win the fight, and Bolas has a harder time getting the jump on Kodachi but landing just two slow ticks is enough to secure a kill (117 speed Kodachi was a lot more resilient to this). It's possible to blunder a Kodachi pretty badly and die to a Bolas while leaving it at half HP, but most fight outcomes should result in the survivor being at low HP.

Of course this is in a straight fight scenario, but since Kodachi is cheaper and faster, it has a good chance of getting past the Bolas and going for the mexes, forcing the Bolas to get into a bad fight state or take economic damage. Getting two Bolas to fight a Kodachi is free pickings, but it should be difficult to get into this position, and even fights between the two are pretty volatile.

(This is playing at 200ms of in-game ping and decent APM, I think Kodachi really benefits from low latency so I wouldn't be surprised if the unit was quite a bit worse in Australia. I think my own Kodachi micro is only mediocre, the unit definitely has a lot of micro in it, especially in groups or with Blitz support. I definitely agree that defending against Kodachi is hard for Hovers early game, and Kodachi vs Bolas balance is very delicate.)
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32 days ago
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Of course this is in a straight fight scenario, but since Kodachi is cheaper and faster, it has a good chance of getting past the Bolas and going for the mexes, forcing the Bolas to get into a bad fight state or take economic damage. Getting two Bolas to fight a Kodachi is free pickings, but it should be difficult to get into this position, and even fights between the two are pretty volatile.

Theoretically the defender gets radar advantage to compensate for this positioning difficulty.
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