see, we did not surrender and managed to turn it around.

it happens

well, 87.5% of your team was silver or above.

One player resigning can make it easier on the team.

Someone possibly has to control more stuff (unless that player was wiped out), but the team's eco is split among less, so you have to coordinate a little less.

Did that tilt the game? Probably not.

Zenith was a huge mistake.

It should have been silo when the palas were out and getting pressured by the berthas. Silo'ing the berthas would have releived that pressure.

Also nothing stopped west from getting a bunch of odins and just bomb running all the eco, which is what east did somehow.

It was west's game to lose, by FAR, and we did.

EDIT: And by the way the zenith was never killed. It just got depowered.

I need to watch the replay because I'm not so sure the game was lost yet. I was making spam to handle the cylops. If the cyclops got handled and the zenith was repowered, I am not so sure the game would have ended this way. It may still have been an east victory with another pass of odins. It may also have been a west victory with zenith and some spam support. The team saw the singus explode, the cyclops roll in and just resigned instantly. It happened so fast, I didn't even notice the vote was casted.

IMO artil shield is what all lop pot games evolve into because of mainly two factors. The first is it's very hard to raid when there are so many commanders on the map. The second is some players don't make units. They just pick a spot, far or near, and porc it to high hell.

You could open with skirm, but then the other side who opens with coms to protect against raiders, porc and straigt to artil just beats you in attrition right away.

I mean, consider this. In lob pot, plopping hovers and making a lance as your first unit is actually totally legit so long as only 1 / a few of you do it... and that's INSANE in pretty much any other setting than lob pot.

The most common case for taking ground and losing the game is overcommiting and giving the other team a lot of reclaim, which doesn't happen with artil.

It is hard to, as a team, identify that enough of a lead was captured and, again as a team, transition to a game ender without feeding. But when you do, you end up with one team that doesn't have enough eco to make an army big enough to break the lines, and the other side just porcing in their face and converting all army to artil.

Outside of a few exceptions (mainly recluse and moderators), skirm useful lifespan is excessively short. Set aside the occasional well coordinated push, assault heavy armies are prone to breaking the line and quickly having to retreat because of revenants... and there is always a revenant spammer per team if not two.

What do you end up with? Artil AA shield.


It's not that other strategies are not possible or viable. It's that concinving other players to participate in a push is really hard to do. People are set in their ways and do pretty much the same thing they did the previous games, and the outcome is almost more determined by which players end up on which side... with the occasional team composition of all back row players getting blown out with push into early silo by the team of all aggressive players. Or, the team of aggressive players feeding the back row team and getting stomped by a nuke/striders/super rush.