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2 years ago
Hey,

Since we have a long history of using country flags in lobby, how about adding badges for top 3 players in each country? The more badges the merrier and more reason for people to feel better about themselves (happy).

Yay/nay?
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Yay

We could also have a special color for the top player in either ladder.
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2 years ago
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how about adding badges for top 3 players in each country?

Due to VPN users, this idea does not make sense.
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2 years ago
any addition, even with vpn, is nice
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2 years ago
Better to group people by the 4th dimension rather than the three. Ideally anybody with infra mana would make ladder seasons first.
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2 years ago
I live in the same country as GBrankPRO_Dregs and GBrankPRO_rANDY, so that'd suck for me XD
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2 years ago
in my knowledge there is like two active taiwan players :D
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I live in the same country as GBrankPRO_Dregs and GBrankPRO_rANDY, so that'd suck for me XD


Not only is there nothing wrong with third place, or any place for that matter, you might not have to worry about me for too much longer anyway. Unless something dramatic happens with my illness soon, I won't be able to continue competitive play anymore.

I know that I was a key pusher in the seasonal league idea to motivate more competitive play, but sitting on the bench and seeing ZK from the outside has me thinking a bit differently. Even if we're a small game, the amount of mental, physical and emotional energy any given player has to burn through to maintain competitive play is huge. It's a very demanding game.

For that reason I think that if we do go the way of seasons, there needs to be downtime to prevent pressure burnout. It might also be good to reward not in terms of #1/#2/#3, but more... Arbitrarily somehow. What we have with the colour system and what MOBAs do with player "leagues" is more fitting. Whilst they do divide players into boxes, there's much less psychological burden than "you're #1 and you have to play to the point of misery to keep that up".

I might not have communicated what I'm thinking quite accurately enough here, but the jist is that we're developing around a game that we love, but don't want to run the risk of it becoming an abusive lover through changes that put us onto a conveyor belt of high-pressure.

I'm all for more badge ideas and ANYTHING that brings us closer as ZK homies, to dampen the psychological burden of competitive play.
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Even if we're a small game, the amount of mental, physical and emotional energy any given player has to burn through to maintain competitive play is huge. It's a very demanding game.

Maintaining top3 is hard, maintaining top20 is trivial.

Numbers are in 2021 elons and for myself. I guess maintaining top3 may be trivial to godde :)

Maintaining casual purple may actually easier if you play less often because you become unstuck from the harmful rote and can emerge from the long slumber to snipe the meta with your ancient knowledge.
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A high casual elo can be maintained as long as you don't 1v1 or, godde forbid, FFA. Getting there is the hardest part.

Please Dregs, don't put yourself down. I've seen you play, I've seen your comments on the game and other things and you are sharp. You might not feel triple A; but as an outside observer, you look to be on top of it. Surely you will get better! Take your time, take it step by step, but things will improve.

Edit: to clarify, I mean improvements in life and health - not in Zero-K gameplay...
Edit2: and just for laughs, Dreggs, when you showed up again acouple of months ago, you made me spiral down immediately, haha.
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2 years ago
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A high casual elo can be maintained as long as you don't 1v1 or, godde forbid, FFA. Getting there is the hardest part.


Can confirm, I don't play and for some unexplained reason I am on top. Actually the best way for me to loose some whrs was to play some zero-wars when they were considered ranked, and nobody gave a shit cause they affected casual rank.

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Even if we're a small game, the amount of mental, physical and emotional energy any given player has to burn through to maintain competitive play is huge. It's a very demanding game.


Yeah, it takes a lot of stress to perform at your best in this demanding game, with quite hard counters and being able to loose just by not paying attention in right place for few seconds.

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Take your time, take it step by step, but things will improve.


This is a bit missing this point, as it's not about being unable to improve, but rather the increasing amount of effort and stress it takes to maintain the high level of competitive play whilst trying to improve. I took a break from ZK for quite a while to finish my degree mostly, and many times I thought about coming back and then I was mostly remembering how stressful it often was - that was mostly keeping me from getting back. Also I'm avoiding 1v1 for the same reason, as the elevated amount of stress is above my tolerance to enjoy playing regularly.

Nevertheless these points are derailing what I originally wanted to discuss - badges based on ranking and countries (or maybe time zones? Better countries, they have more comradeship associated with them than time zone). It's not meant to be very serious, mostly a feel good curiosity. I agree that 3 people in 100+ countries (possibly 6 with 2 ladders) is quite a bit, so maybe just the currently best one?

Yes, I'm aware the system could be cheated by using a VPN or something, but it's not really important to prevent this. If people are willing to do that just to get a badge that would mean that they are working as intended (giving reasons for people to feel better).

Just a mention - I also support the idea of seasons with promotion of competitive gameplay intertwined with calm periods - maybe in 50-50 ratio. I would dig in some of those seasons to see how high can I get in competitive 1v1 if I knew that it does not mean that I have to worry about maintaining whatever I achieved in that period (staying as high as possible indefinitely) and rest.
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2 years ago
Sounds ok. Don't show "Top 1 overall" and "Top 1 in country" badges at the same time, so that no more space is being used.
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2 years ago
Can't wait for random people looking like ballers and then turning out to be top1 in zimbabwe or something
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2 years ago
I might proxy to that if nr1-randy-fan unleashes himself again.
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