Adaptive Perks for Commanders

Why not have coms be able to choose their perks as they level up? This would move com leveling more towards a tactical option rather than a preconceived strategic all-in (troll comming).

The current system allows for one degree of choice - level up or not. If com leveling isn't supposed to ever be allowed to overshadow the rest of the game, then perhaps this would integrate the leveling system more into normal play without buffing it into the spotlight.

Thoughts?

maybe if you could setup some presets that you can morph into.. like the inital commander choosing thing.. but it might be irritating to have anything on screen while midgame. could have icons or some kinda minamalistic ui.. but its allot of work.. i personaly thing that the solid com choice is part of the tactics.

This has been discussed before and the answer was that it would be good but would take an enormous amount of effort to implement.

It is possible, but it is difficult to implement and require a lot of hacks.
For example one of the hacks: give all possible weapon to the com and activate only weapon which was chosen by player.

However, I guess it would really be good idea to have multiply morphs on level 1. For example, you configured two recon coms. In game you get a basic recon com which can be morphed into Recon Com A and Recon Com B. Isn't it cool and simple? So before the game started you don't select between your commanders, but only chose commander type: strike, recon, battle, or sige.

New Coms are useless.... remove commanders and install BA-Standard-Commander or power up the autorepair.

quote: Better idea: Actually balance the commander modules/weapons to make them all useful.

Blapshemy!

You don't seem to understand the message here. A com weapon can be balanced and useful. Building units will always be cost effective vs building a single vulnerable unit. Units can be in n many more places than the com. However the point of the message would be to bring all com weapons and balance them all out to make them all useful (comparatively).


Useful =/= kills everything. Of course bombers are gonna bomb them. They're the troll com's natural counter --- ANTI HEAVY.

quote: I mean, the "Building units will always be cost effective vs building a single vulnerable unit" is even trivially easy to disprove and goes directly against the notion of weight as a balance factor.

Disprove that 1 unit can only be in one place while 20 units in equal cost of that unit can be in 20 different places.

quote: Especially in the early minutes of 1v1 games, where raiders are the predominant (and kind of the only useful) units

Almost all raiders have the power of disengagement against coms. You can render the enemy commander investment irrelevant by disengaging. In order for units to make cost, they must engage an enemy. How do you engage raiders with a com? They either have to come to you or you have to come to them. Remember: [u]You aren't forced to attack/be in range of the commander/riot/more costly unit[/u]! Even if they do deflect the raid, you can still use these units (assuming you didn't suicide them all in which case would be an error on your scouting the commander or a lack of attention) to inflict more long term economic harm (eg: thru the power of squatting requiring the slow com or other raiders to evict the raiders you put on the enemy's nearby mexes. Even then you can again disengage unless the enemy raiders are faster.). Also note the enemy now has less raiders because they spent the money on the commander.

If you have specific replays of building a single commander being more effective cost wise over building units, please do free to post one.

quote: If you have specific replays of building a single commander being more effective cost wise over building units, please do free to post one.

Any game with successful troll com.

@Shamanpluk

quote: Disprove that 1 unit can only be in one place while 20 units in equal cost of that unit can be in 20 different places.

What kind of strawman is that? You're not even trying...

quote: Almost all raiders have the power of disengagement against coms. You can render the enemy commander investment irrelevant by disengaging. [...] You aren't forced to attack/be in range of the commander/riot/more costly unit!

Well your buildings can be forced to engage him if you just let him walk into your base as you're suggesting. Remember that you're not the only one with a choice, and that solars aren't particularly effective vs coms.
I mean, is that sentence seriously what you think when someone rushes a big unit against you? "Oh, it won't hurt me, I can just run away from it!"

Going by your argument, people will never make riots, since raiders can choose not to engage them. I even specifically metioned coms in the context of "front line crowd control".