PLEASE NERF DIRTBAGS DUMB DIRT DROP

Dirtbags are countered by (at least some) riots. Your team overcommitted to artillery, had very few riots, and got punished.

The dirt drop didn't even look like it had much of an impact, you got run over by the Dirtbags themselves.

lol:

https://zero-k.info/Forum/Thread/35585
https://zero-k.info/Forum/Thread/35587
https://zero-k.info/Forum/Thread/33503
https://zero-k.info/Forum/Thread/31981

It seems something might need to be done about dirtbags. There are a few good suggestions in those other threads though, like mojjj's one about having the spike decay after a little bit.

Today we played a small team game where Lance spam ripped our guts out. Only thing that helped was Dirtbag.

Tremor exists.
Goliath exists.

ill add a note here that tremor will also area denial your own units to some extent.. but some types of tank can shrug it off

Dirtbags does battlefield shaping, an actually STRATEGIC part of a strategy game! (instead of i micro raiders better gg~)

Dirtbags does not only block units on a tactical level, but strategically makes some kind of terrain difficult to hold for many army types and make attacking through it difficult. IMO the key to fighting dirtbags is to actually commit significant firepower to deny certain parts of the terrain to dirtbags (generally keep mexes you "should be able to keep"), while "roll with the punches" and transition into dirtbag-terrain friendly armies like jump/spider/emissary, as well as transition into defense -> porc -> impaler mex denial into fighting another lane or superweapons.

The goal should not be to push through a dirtbag lane, it goal should be to hold mexes and deny mexes in a dirtbag lane in a economic manner and win with other forms of aggro. Try to get +200 metal per minute out of the lane and eventually your starlight wins the game.

Again, Lance spam is far more frustrating and deadly than Dirtbags. And dirtbag helps control Lance spam through making territory un-navigable for the clunky Lances. Dirtbag is also basically the only counter for that other stupid meta, team Paladin rush. The knobbly terrain helps confine the Paladin so that the non-rush team has some time to exploit their map expansion. This might not be so bad if Ultimatum didn't suck so badly, but, alas it does. It usually gets one shot off against Paladin and then dies. So much for the anti-heavy.

its not the dirtbag unit that we want to complain , its easy to counter dirtbag , the problem is they spam it too much causing lag to the game , we are unable to respond , if you notice how many ppl lagged/afk/dropped in the game during dirtbag spam.

i do not know if this is connection to server , dirtbag design or my cpu issue
but im sure there is some sort of problem with it

to some ppl they dont lag when dirtbag was spammed , this is not a strategy counter but a technical counter, they make it so people get disconnected. certain few people always do that

i can spam fleas but i dont get lags , perhaps something has to do with dirtbag design?

http://zero-k.info/Battles/Detail/1496184

try watch this replay with 1k dirtbag spam see if you lag
my cpu is only running 40-50% , ram at 50% im 100% sure this has nothing to do with my cpu.

Yo, over a year ago I saw this dirtbag meta creeping in the lob pots, with some players maining it. While it does belong in the game as noise, deterrent, scouting and area denial... it's too amazing at all of these.
No jumping, or speed nerf to the extent of 75%.
Like all these stans spamming a single raider unit in 1v1 - we're here to play zero K and build crazy fights, not minmax because you're salty about your starcraft II league placement. Nobody wants to main dirtbags, but since they're so good, players will choose it over their own dignity, and I hate to see it.

do they though