ISIS and Ditched

These 2 maps need to be unfeatured. Both promote horrible gameplay that kills lobby and player motivation.
Isis has 2 narrow chokepoints that funnel all conflict leading to long stalemates broken only by silo spam or strider/SW rush. Makes for boring gameplay.

Ditched is WORSE. The entire map is tooo narrow and long, limiting opportunities for unit mobility. Promotes a eco rush into super weapon playstyle that is tedious and boring. Games last 1 hour+ regularly and kills lobby right after.

Please remove these 2 maps, I am desperate.

I used to think Fields of Isis was horrible, but it's grown on me in the last year or two. Early aggression wins a lot of Isis games - it can't be that bad...

Ditched I don't like that much, but there are plenty of worse maps.

TBH I disagree about most hated maps while having a fair reserve of hate for maps myself.

Fields of Isis at least pushes players towards conflict and has fairly large open areas. The games tend to be pretty decent for a "chokey" map.

Ditched gives you eco! While yes on very large teams it's still too narrow, actually giving people the metal to make the needed tools often means that the game will be broken open.

I also like esker creek because - again, it has the space and the metal (and feels actually designed for larger teams). It's a bit ugly but I often see people making a lot of all sorts of units instead the impoverished escalation race I see on smaller maps.

There are many maps I would take out before these. Sorry to yum your yuk.

I don't think I've ever had a prolonged stalemate on glitters tbh. Not compared to other maps. I tend to be aggressive though.

I have a lot of hate in my heart. Going through the featured list for team games:
+ Intersection (rarely see good games, often leads to slow choke outs, ugly)
+ Akilon Wastes (rarely see good games, too big no metal, often bad games due to confused lobsters giving up enormous territory free)
+ Scorched Crossing (needs work to make it clearer)
+ Cystallised planes (poverty and slow choke out despite looking relatively open)
+ Wet Supreme (people don't know how to play it leading to bad games where entire sides are given for free)
+ Desolation (very limited fac diversity, often takes a long time to finish decided games)
+ Carrot mountains/fools mate (too homogenous) - though I don't think I've played they just look bad
+ skate park (I like the idea a lot, but the game usually feels like a standoff where I can't finish the game even if I win lane early - just have to sit on marginal advantage and hope a team mate figures it out).
+ Isle of grief (I loved the idea of this map on release, it didn't turn out to give games that I enjoyed)
+ Evorts new llamas (ugly, lacks intent behind design, arguably one of worst maps in pool IMO)


These are the ones I'd take out before the three already mentioned and I think for defensible reasons (not just personal preference). Yes I know this is subjective and some of these are fixable (especially scorched crossing which could be interesting if I could see the damn terrain).

There are a lot of maps in the pool that I don't personally enjoy much, but which I think should stay because it's very clear other people enjoy them and their removal I don't think is defensible.

A poll that covers a wide range of common teams maps would be useful.

Are either of those any worse than StormSiege_v3?

All the thin rectangular maps with spawn points on far ends play approximately the same way.

Ditched has the dry river in the middle and isis has mountains for spiders/jumpies/airplay.

EDIT: And I would love to average the time of all games played on these maps, because the argument so far is that those maps lead to long stalemates and Storm Siege matches are just as long.

I don't see a consistent argument that would lead to Isis and Ditched to go, but Storm Siege to remain.

Some further opinions: Assuming large-ish teams, I'd prefer to play on Ditched, and certainly Fields of Isis, over:
All that Glitters
Storm Siege
LLTA Complex
maybe DSD?

I tend to dodge Esker Creek, but I think that if you do want to play on a map of that size, Esker Creek is one of the better options.