Light vehicles, anti-heavy suggestion

So, since cars are about to get some AA, why not get anti heavy as well?

I propose a car version of a skuttle-like unit. Only instead of cloak and ambushing, it's just a fast suicide unit.

Basically a car bomb. Functions similarly to a high weight class roach. Decent armour (just enough to tank a single HLT shot?), incredible damage (two shots reapers? 4 to 5k damage) in ~roach AoE. Expensive (at least 500, if not 700). Speed something like scorcher or even faster, very good maneuverability.
No special abilities or funky stuff. Just an armoured bomb on wheels.

The idea of course is to simply run at a juicy target and blow up. Also doubles as anti-everything in a pinch, but the weight class should mean it will never make cost except against heavies retreating for repair.

Could also see use in punching out a keystone unit (like retreating felons) or smashing a hole for ravagers to exploit. Use terrain and wrecks tactically to hide from fire until you can close with it.

STOOOP SUGGESTING MORE AND MORE UNITS! THERE'S ALREADY TOO MANY! :O

I do like the sound of a fast kamikaze car that just crashes into a heavy unit, causing massive damage!

Edit: Afaik Skasi has suggested removing hammer multiple times over the last 1,5 years. :)

Edit2: My opinion is that there's never too many units, if they're all balanced and useful! ZK is still far from those OTA mods that had hundreds of added units in addition to the original ones!

Ick, no.

Not every anti-heavy unit needs to be a kamikaze.

Notice something about heavies? Most of them are kinda short-ranged and slow. The Sumo, the Goli - they both would be vulnerable to skirmishers if it weren't for the fact that most skirms are so small that they're vulnerable to getting rioted.

Give us a big anti-heavy skirm! A big Rocko-like unit, but with beefy omgwtfbbq damaging missiles. Downside? Stockpile-based. 200 cost per-shot.

So you send a squad of them out to take down heavies, but you'll be lucky if they make cost when firing at anything smaller.

A car bomb with 1200 cost, no wreck, decent armour, roach aoe, really fast and have at least 18000 damage would be awsome, it doesn't have to be a exclusive anti-heavy unit with this much of weight.

Countering golly == hard as fuck, unless its dirtbags or emp plane. Its almost impossible if its managed by good player, because he wont go far enough into enemy land and when golly runs away it does that really fast, and then kill repair cycle.

I agree on tracking merl, hell I'd make it the factories AA unit too (I want more flex-AA). It can't be more OP than the Penetrator, which is just as accurate and has way more DPS.

The rest of the devs are opposed though...

I think vehicles are ok for anti-heavy. They have many units that each kill particular heavy units.

Dominatrix is reasonable because it damages vs cost instead of health. So it is decent against some heavies which lack range. Without support it may not beat them for cost but you do get a heavy unit if it succeeds.

Ravager is quite good for cost, beats many things.

Scorcher beats heavies which lack AOE.

Merl can accurately hit a plonked Crabe.

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Sak flex AA Merl is stupid. I showed you the maths for this before.

Merl DPS/cost = 0.11
Mobile AA DPS/cost currently has a range of about 0.25 to 0.45.

Merl would be many times worse than most AA and homing would make it better vs ground. It would probably have to be worse than it currently is if it gained homing which destroys an already fine unit.

Seriously, there's at least four running bombs. Why add even more? If anything, make existing ones more unique. Optionally move them to other labs. As it is your "slow anti heavy bomb" concept is not unique at all.

Countering Goli is not hard as fuck at all, rather the opposite. I'd prove with over 9000 modstat pics, but I always get "can't divide by zero, 'cause I'm a nub" errors.

I didn't mean slow. I wanted a fast anti-heavy bomb.