Mount the outlaw weapon to Detriment

Please install 2 Disruptor Pulser on Detriment.

Not very good game design to make units with no counters.

The solution to swarms is jump away.

To be honest, at this point I am convinced Detriment is the developers joke aimed at the expense of noobs. It doesn't really have a usecase, everyone agrees that it sucks and the devs seem unwilling to change it.

quote: And yet we have Big Bertha. And all the superweapons.

Silo? Tacsub? Nuke? Unit swarm because enemy invested so much metal while they front failed? If you mean supwep rushes on map where long game with 1 fps is expected then it will not count. Its problem by map design not sup wep.

The problem with the super units is it makes lower teir units useless making the game more about teching up than actual skirmishes.

it seems like BA forked into 2 games

zero-k: units are ultra specialized, high M units not inherently more efficient.

metal factions: units ultra generalized, high M units most efficient. game is a T2 tech race.

Theyre pr'd atm.

I've experimented with that, the problem is that now you have to keep your det walking at all times

it certainly is a quick solution that doesn't require a re-model, but there's probably better ones.



and while we're at it, buff the unit in general (esp. the regen, no time for caretakers when you have to rush to the enemy starlight!)

In terms of buffs, I would suggest the following:
- 2x firerate for gauss gun
(it just feels more right that way)
- Give it AOE if swarms are a big problem
- The ability to jump, BUT HAVE SOME PREVENTION FOR JUST JUMPING OVER ENEMY ARMY
(it's the ultimate assault strider, not the big scythe strider)
- Homing, 2x damage and quake-level-anti-terraform on the missiles
- outlaw wave
- replace the aa laser with the (buffed?) slowbeam, would make it better at dealing with big striders and air units at the same time
- up regen to 69/s

This leads into the human problem: Why should I help X build detri and have fun when I Can build detri and have fun?

Singus are extremely cost efficient so long as your energy grid isn't already saturated. Probably a better investment than a Detriment 99% of the time.

Rushing them kinda works in large games in large maps, just because there's enough metal flying around to get them built quickly. Building them tends to suck if you try to do so with a tiny amount of metal and basically spend 10 minutes at it. If it takes a long time to build, that's a lot of time all that metal spends as essentially stored metal.