What air units would you like to have?

This thread is not about what existing units should be in planes or gunships.
Neither it is about which unit should get replaced.

Just show us a design, a definition (what) it is good for, why you like it more than current planes and gunships - like I do:

EDIT: Please only refer to 1-3 units per post.
Don't suggest a complete Factory or units which just WTF-PWN everything ;)
[color=grey]When I opened the thread I though more about look&feel or what feels good-playable[/color]


Design: I like Stargate Goa'uld Todesgleiter

Definition: It would have awfull accelleration/brake compared to max speed - only fast on long distances.
You can use it more like gunships (low turn radius, low velocity while attacking), but it has some fixed wing properties and higher weight than avenger.

Why: It looks cool, interacts with ground, don't need to reload - only damaged ones for repair.
If used in the same way as in the movie, it punishes you for deathballing by increased hit chance, not AOE and is very different from current Avenger (mostly a fighter), other bombers (1 target) and gunships (movement, mobility).
I think we miss such a unit currently.

I want a flying brick gunship with a lightning gun. Almost immaneuverable, limited fire-arc, no banking, ages-slow turn rate, slow acceleration, but high max speed and thick armor.

Being a gunship, it can apply its acceleration wherever it wants, but it can only fire where it faces.

You use it by figuring out where enemy juicy tall things are (because it sucks shooting at low things due to limited fire arc and being in air) and then accelerating to that location from afar.

I want a strategic bomber that drops NORMAL BOMBS. Like a Phoenix, only instead of dropping a bunch of napalm bombs, it drops bombs which simply explode and deal damage. The result is a large area covered with immediate splash damage.

WHY: Seriously. Why do we not have a plane that just drops a bunch of good old explosive bombs? And a big, heavy bomber would be able to fly through anti-air, deliver bombs behind enemy lines, and possibly even survive.

I also want a cheap ground strike bird that drops a small payload of splash bombs.

WHY: A smaller, cheaper bomber allows more interaction between a player going air and the rest of the map. Easily taken down by fighters or anti-air, and easily replaced. Perfect for bombing mexes and other light targets or clusters of light units, and it can take a hit for a more important plane if needed.

And I want a bird that fires missiles at ground targets which has the range to evade anti-air. Much cheaper and less powerful than the Licho, but with great range and more expendable.

WHY: Because an air player should be able to operate at the fringes of anti-air, and it is shocking that there are no anti-ground missiles on aircraft.

And I also want a gunship that fires long-range missiles at ground targets. A slow, expensive gunship that fires just one missile at long range instead of the Blackdawns' huge salvo.

WHY: Because nothing else in the gunship factory has any range, and gunships also need a way to reach into an anti-air grid and inflict some pain. Hopefully the victim will invest in some flying anti-air, or perhaps some mobile AA to deal with the missile gunship(s).


Also, I am massively in favor of the idea of having fighters with a limited supply of fantastic air-to-air missiles which can use air pads to re-arm.

@[1uP]ledarsi:
I don't know if I should -1 your post.
you suggest 4 units, I meant about 1-3 to keep it short - wanted some response what players think it is cool and awesome

EDIT> Quote> I also want a cheap ground strike bird that drops a small payload of splash bombs.
You mean a phönix balanced toward 120-150m, but pure-damage instantly?

Do you sugest a long range "throwing bomb like good old"-Licho and Carpet bomber-Licho for AOE?
What do you mean with "enough range to evade AA" - enough for chainsaw or enough for screamer? Enough to hit targets within 1/2 range or even (almost) hit the tower?

I would like to see your post edited to match the "new rules", which hopefully prevent others from making unwanted clones - for some time. But thanks that you show me what I should have written when I opened the topic.

i'm with USrank[1uP]ledarsi why dont we have something that drops normal bombs?

I want an airplane with a strong gravity gun. I want planes that can repel fighters and gunships away from my bombers in flight, break enemy Vamps away from furballs, throw Avengers like rag dolls, and pull enemy gunships away from the fringe of their team's AA. Also, it'd be REALLY fun for messing with units on the ground; imagine intercepting Pyros in mid-jump, throwing them half a klick across the map to crash into their own solar collectors.

I've even come up with a name for it: Arrester.

I want a fun-mode bomber that drops newton charges, possibly carpet bombing an area with small charges that push units around and cause general chaos.

sanyc: How about the delayed bomb then: raiders and skirms that are well managed would be able to get away with minimal casulties,while killing massed assaults and providing new tactical opertunities.

Good for anti-static bombers, but I would use plasma for more Sci-Fi look&feel :)

Pxtl@Lyth: You could use impulse to draw enemey arty in range of your defenses or push assaults back.

somekid: you can use [*img]http://img-url.jpg[*/img] without "*" for some file formats and small pictures.


Fun-Mode unit idea ( At least fun for neonstorms and neonfans (:
"Hailstorm" is a slow 4k metal gunship and the counterpart to Krow (Air|Ground), circle-shaped with a gun-tower in middle.
It can build and launch up to 9 fast fighter-drones against air, 3 light double-plasma cannons on bottom (at the edge, to work also vs gunships), radar+sonar_OR_stealth-switch, a Fast Single Plasma Gun on top in a tower.

Has it's own "energy" bar: reloads with 15e/s stores 450e, flying -2e/s, moving -3e/s, single plasma gun, double plasma guns (max 14e/s for plasma, 2e each projectile) ..(min 50 storage).. radar+sonar -2e/s, refuel+repair drone: -30e ..(min 110 storage).. build drone: -75e. (Sorted by priority)

Fast Dual Plasma Guns: burnblow, (dual-shot, 0.5s, dual-shot, 0.5s, dual-shot, wait 2s, repeat) -> 34+16aoe dps in total.
Fighter drones: costs 65m, 200hp (1/2 Avenger, 1-shot by chainsaw), agile and fast, low turn radius. Fast Single Plasma Gun (similar to dual plasma guns), 10s to refuel, have 12 shots, 17+8aoe dps for 12..25s combat (Avenger has about 60 dps vs air)

It could at least be some mission-unit (do we have a model for it or do you just want to let reef fly? ;)

If you mean my unit Lyth, just the carrier-ability and 102+48aoe dps for a 4k m unit is not OP.
Maybe the drones, repair speed, etc are. But it needs a half fusion and use of primary weapons punishs you by restricting other abilites. The low weight units can get shot down by chainsaw in 18 shots (assuming every second is overkill and miss) it has more energy if not in flying+mobile mode.