Campaign Feedback - Shieldbots and Caretaker

I played on normal because i think a player who has played online a little bit and decently understands the game should be able to do the missions on normal first try.

Phisnet this map it self wasnt that difficult but it was fun only to get the bonus objective i had to guess which is irritating. difficulty 3/10 fun 8/10

Jochu was very difficult because your anti air units walk faster than your normal units leading them to die. there wasnt any hint on that. By the way overdrive wasnt explained in any of the missions yet. difficulty 7/10 fun 5.5/10.

Yeta this map was very straight forward and didnt have any troubles. difficulty 2/10 fun 8/10(i like explosions)

Ogurlo this map wasnt fun. I did the shields and the rackteers and easily killed the storage and the strider factory, but then i still had to kill the striders(there where 3) because the strider factory was down they had alot of eco to rebuild and make spiders leading to the striders being very hard to kill. difficulty 8/10 fun 2/10.

Altaris this map you need to get out felons. it takes a lot of time to get 3 of them to watch your expensions and your base during this time i got raided by scorcers and lost the storage and other things. It took me along time to get enouth eco to outproduce the 2 of them who also used fencers which outranged all of my units. difficulty 8/10 fun 2/10

Zooph5 this map i havent finish the time im writing this. First i get the geo up and then the other geo. By the time im making a decent amount of units he already has 75% of the map and then he bypassed my defence with units when i didnt pay attantion for a second losing an intire base of eco. difficulty 10/10 fun ?/10

Maybe this is because im not a good player but i do understand most of the mechanics(overdrive which hasnt been explained). Leading me to think that a new player should go on easy. And sorry for this horrible english i have dyslectia

quote: Maybe this is because im not a good player but i do understand most of the mechanics(overdrive which hasnt been explained). Leading me to think that a new player should go on easy. And sorry for this horrible english i have dyslectia

Thanks for your feedback koenradar , that's very detailed and helpful.

The last few Shieldbot missions are indeed quite hard - I'll see about making them more generous on easier difficulties.

In future weeks there will be some easier missions released again, which would let you get more unlocks, modules and commander levels before tackling the hard Shieldbot missions. The release order is a bit unfortunate in this case, my bad :(

quote: The hammer mission was hard on brutal. I couldnt actually force my way down the middle with hammers. Ended up just massing rocko/warrior and erasing sides. Eventually just eco win. Hammers not really needed. Not the best scenario to show them off.

My goal for (at least some of the) Brutal missions is for the player to have to use a wider variety of units and strategies, since Brutal players don't need to be gently introduced to what the units do. That being said, if Hammers felt useless that's a bad sign. I'll have a look into tweaking that.

I had no trouble with Hammer on brutal.

Anarchid That sounds like an out of date version of the Snitch mission (as of a few days ago). The destroying mexes optional objective no longer exists for the reasons you describe, and the AI's factory selection is different now.

Did you play it in stable chobby?

Stable version of snitch mission has incorrect objective list "destroy enemy geothermals". Here both geothermals are dead, but mission is not won - apparently, factories and commanders also need to be killed.

Jochu (Brutal):

I had to actually stop fighting just to make sure I get 20 rogues for the bonus objective. Otherwise I would've won too early and wouldn't have gotten the objective.

Diff 1/10: Use fight move, win. Took me 6 minutes.
Fun 2/5: Quick mission. Rogues are a thing now.

Phisnet-3617

Concept is pretty cool, I like the relatively relaxed introduction to shieldbots. In game informative text is useful, and the overall experience was decent. I feel like the optional objectives were a little bit out of order though. I need to search for a thing, with a time limit, but I'm supposed to build the slow meaty thug? Also, I managed to get 4 bandits through the enemy glaives and destroyed their factory, but I still lost out on the timed objective because I looked everywhere that had metal, and not the opposite corner of the map. Also, if I replayed this mission, I think it would be much easier since I already know where the thing is, do we have anyway of changing it's location between a few points so the player has to adapt for further attempts? Last thing, I seem to have a personal aversion to that map, since the gravity makes no sense to me on such a small asteroid. It just seems a little corny to me, but that's likely my own personal bias rather than anything useful. Overall, it was kinda neat, but I feel like the bonus objectives could use some rethinking. Bandits are enough to easily win the match, and are the likely choice for recon, maybe ask the player to build a mixed force so you encourage them to try the new toys?

Your response to Jochu is interesting as others dislike it. So far everyone seems to have different favourite missions and no mission stands out as requiring significant improvement.

Shieldfac mission: the objective seems to always be in the same spot so the "find" part is moot after first play. [PieInTheSky]I'd propose making it spawn randomly.[/PieInTheSky]

Rogue Vandal mission: the enemy didn't actually use its Gunship fac even after I killed its Hover fac.

Isnt it eraser?