Superweapon Discussion Thread

Honestly, I don't think the game really needs 3 different superweapons. The Starlight alone is enough. No real reason to remove the Zenith and the DRP, but no real reason to keep them either.

The zenith is quite different. It's actually a metalmaker. Each of its meteors obstruct movement and provide reclaim. This means that once you destroy an opponent, it actually adds to the reclaim it creates (mostly for FFA). It's also way more 'fire and forget', the Starlight requires a lot of babying and is mostly good at taking out key structures: The Zenith obliterates bases.

The Zenith should also have more DPS vs, for example, shield grids. I'm not actually sure if this is the case because the Starlights DPS is quite weird.

IMO the Starlight needs a bit of a nerf (It's single target DPS is still insane, more than it needs for 90% of applications, which is mostly killing Superfusions and Mechs), and maybe the others a bit of a buff.

The DRP is definitely not a very interesting or powerful superweapon.

What I really want from super weapons is for each to have a use and a weakness. The Starlights use is single target damage, it's weakness should be in moving the laser from A to B (say from attacking to defense) and in taking out large armies. IMO slow down the traverse rate and lower the DPS a bit.

The Zeniths use is destroying whole bases, messing up terrain and creating metal. It's weakness is vs single high HP enemies, such as mechs.

The DRP I'm not sure, it's sort of a whacky big big bertha.

DRP is the only static superweapon that won't give away its location.

I think static super weapons have too much hp, normally they are already well protected in late games, so much hp make them a bit too hard to be killed.

*any* capture superweapon would be hilarious. Capture nuke, capture Bertha, capture whatever. Heck, rip off those now-worthless grav-beams off the Jugglenaut and make it capture - The mayhem after vindiicator-tossing that thing into the enemy base would be priceless.

Well, the important part is that it's not a one-shot deal that captures the all your base. Something that captures about a quarter of it... maybe half. Preferably the quarter that has all the guns.

Of course, then you could get really fancy and make it a nuke weapon that spawns a static building in the middle of the capture radius that "owns" the captured units, so that the victim of this weapon has a fighting chance at getting their crap back if they can destroy the object that's at Ground Zero of this attack.

But at that point we're overthinking a silly superweapon.

... a superweapon at only 15K? That's the Silencer with a couple of nukes loaded.

zenith sucks, you can easily get a starlight to do a nice zigzag across a base. saying it is a metal make is kinda stupid. if i can afford the zenith i doubt i need the reclaim its also better to invest in a detriment imo.

qwerty3w's ideas remind me to neonstorm xD

Virus spreader (or some name like that, but remember these are robots): a superweapon that costs much more than the others (in the 50k range). It fires a green laser that comes from the sky, but the laser moves very slowly, maybe sumo speed? There is a satellite similar to Starlight, but the satellite moves and the laser comes down vertically, while a laser goes from the building to the satillite diagonally. Instead of normal damage, it has very good capture rate. It has no AoE and a very thin laser, so it takes several thousand worth of adv radars to not have to scout. The laser/satellite should be slow enough that anyone with lots of air, tacnukes, or a starlight can kill it in time. If you can't kill it or are already being attacked, you're basically dead.

Earth Mover: Costs something low like 15k, stopped by antinuke. You build just the missile, which is thick and short. To use it, you pick a circular area with a fixed radius, set any terraform changes (probably should have a limit on height change), and then launch it.

Gravity cannon: fires things out of a huge cannon. Costs 25k. When it hits somewhere, it acts kind of like the Jugglenaut dgun. All units fly up in the air, then are flung at a random speed in a random direction. Useless against buildings.

We should buff DRP by making it cost 20k, make Zenith 30k-35k, and nerf starlight Starlight to costing 40k-50k.